flyingaway wrote:
Pro Ecclesia Dei wrote:
Predestination is God's providence in respect to our final end.
It is a mystery, but so is providence. Say you thank God for getting a new job. But did not a human person hire you? Didn't you write the application? We recognize God is to be thanked, but we recognize the good came through human actions. It presents an apparent paradox, but as we dig into it we see that both human freedom and God's government over history are true and not contradictory, but how the two reconcile exactly is beyond our sight here
or we can just say we are ignorant humans and just will never know certain things about God
I think a lot of ppl just have a hard time admitting they don't know something.. AND that no one else likely knows either
In any case, there is no such thing as double predestination -- big heresy which can be proved from the Bible alone (not tht I am a Bible alone believer.. ha ha.. no real Catholic is)
A mystery is not something we cannot know anything about, it is something we cannot know everything about.
NB, while it is commonly said in pop theology that "double predestination" is heresy, that statement is most unhelpful . Either what is meant by it is that God predestines both the end (heaven or hell) and the means (merit or sin), in which case it is an unhelpful strawman that no one believes, or it means that God predestines some to heaven and some to hell, but not in the same way, as He predestines both the end and means to heaven (total predestination), whereas in the latter he predestines the end based on foreseen sins, but not the sins (positive reprobation). iN which case, we believe in double predestination!