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| Author: | The young fogey [ Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Latinization at my Byzantine Catholic church. Ugh. Help! |
The people at my Byzantine Catholic church wanted statues back in the church, like in their old, pre-merger church, and they're back; angels holding candelabra. And there are flat-screen TVs on either side of the iconostasis. Makes it look like a sports bar. I've complained, for naught. This is not what the Catholic Church wants for this rite. They're sweet statues, very Tridentine Roman. They belong in the church hall as a cultural display. |
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| Author: | kage_ar [ Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Latinization at my Byzantine Catholic church. Ugh. Help! |
"pre-merger"? Guessing that a Latin Rite and a Byzantine Catholic parish were merged into one using the Byzantine physical structure? |
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| Author: | The young fogey [ Wed Mar 02, 2022 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Latinization at my Byzantine Catholic church. Ugh. Help! |
kage_ar wrote: "pre-merger"? Guessing that a Latin Rite and a Byzantine Catholic parish were merged into one using the Byzantine physical structure? No. Sorry; I should have been clearer. My Byzantine Catholic parish is a merger of three such. Such have gotten very latinized over the generations. The main church in the merger had the statues, which some of the people wanted in the new location. The priest then rightly said no, but the present priest gave them their way. To be fair, the wonderful iconostasis also comes from the main church in the merger. |
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| Author: | Alexandros [ Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Latinization at my Byzantine Catholic church. Ugh. Help! |
Not much one person can do, I've seen many churches go down the road of adopting things foreign to the Roman rite for example. I suppose your situation could be magnitudes worse. The young fogey wrote: And there are flat-screen TVs on either side of the iconostasis. Ah yes, the great flat screen TVs of the ancient Roman basilicas, definitely should not be at a Byzantine church. Quote: They're sweet statues, very Tridentine Roman. No such thing as "Tridentine" when it comes to liturgy and art. |
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| Author: | The young fogey [ Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Latinization at my Byzantine Catholic church. Ugh. Help! |
Alexandros wrote: Not much one person can do. I've seen many churches go down the road of adopting things foreign to the Roman rite for example. I suppose your situation could be magnitudes worse. If the iconostasis came down and the services were versus populum I'd leave. None of that will happen only for ecumenism's sake. Alexandros wrote: No such thing as "Tridentine" when it comes to liturgy and art. I know that St. Pius V's missal was a slight edit of the late medieval one of the Diocese of Rome. Most people know what I mean. These large plaster statues would fit in at a nice Roman Rite church from the late 1800s or early 1900s and at a Roman Rite traditionalist chapel. |
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| Author: | kage_ar [ Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Latinization at my Byzantine Catholic church. Ugh. Help! |
The young fogey wrote: kage_ar wrote: "pre-merger"? Guessing that a Latin Rite and a Byzantine Catholic parish were merged into one using the Byzantine physical structure? No. Sorry; I should have been clearer. My Byzantine Catholic parish is a merger of three such. Such have gotten very latinized over the generations. The main church in the merger had the statues, which some of the people wanted in the new location. The priest then rightly said no, but the present priest gave them their way. To be fair, the wonderful iconostasis also comes from the main church in the merger. Thanks for the explanation. I do find that interesting, that the parishioners of a Byzantine parish would not want to fully embrace their own imagery and just run on over to St So and Such Roman Rite when they have a yen for some statues. Some day I pray that I am able to visit a Byzantine parish. They are non-existent in Arkansas |
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| Author: | Vern Humphrey [ Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Latinization at my Byzantine Catholic church. Ugh. Help! |
kage_ar wrote: The young fogey wrote: kage_ar wrote: "pre-merger"? Guessing that a Latin Rite and a Byzantine Catholic parish were merged into one using the Byzantine physical structure? No. Sorry; I should have been clearer. My Byzantine Catholic parish is a merger of three such. Such have gotten very latinized over the generations. The main church in the merger had the statues, which some of the people wanted in the new location. The priest then rightly said no, but the present priest gave them their way. To be fair, the wonderful iconostasis also comes from the main church in the merger. Thanks for the explanation. I do find that interesting, that the parishioners of a Byzantine parish would not want to fully embrace their own imagery and just run on over to St So and Such Roman Rite when they have a yen for some statues. Some day I pray that I am able to visit a Byzantine parish. They are non-existent in Arkansas St John Orthodox Christian Church - Rogers, Arkansas Facebook (10) · Church/Cathedral 1740 S 9th St, Rogers · (248) 756-5528 Closed · Opens tomorrow 6 PM Holy Trinity Orthodox Church Facebook (15) · Church/Cathedral 1812 Watt St, Little Rock · (501) 224-3330 St Nicholas Orthodox Church Facebook (28) · Church/Cathedral 3171 S 48th St, Springdale · (479) 379-6220 Closed · Opens tomorrow 6 PM Annunciation Greek Orthodox Church Facebook (51) · Church/Cathedral 1100 Napa Valley Dr, Little Rock · (501) 221-5300 Closed · Opens Mon 9 AM Holy Transfiguration Orthodox Church Church/Cathedral 292 Co Rd 390, Mountain Home · (815) 258-3668 Closed · Opens tomorrow 7 PM |
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| Author: | Stargazer [ Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Latinization at my Byzantine Catholic church. Ugh. Help! |
Vern Humphrey wrote: kage_ar wrote: The young fogey wrote: kage_ar wrote: "pre-merger"? Guessing that a Latin Rite and a Byzantine Catholic parish were merged into one using the Byzantine physical structure? No. Sorry; I should have been clearer. My Byzantine Catholic parish is a merger of three such. Such have gotten very latinized over the generations. The main church in the merger had the statues, which some of the people wanted in the new location. The priest then rightly said no, but the present priest gave them their way. To be fair, the wonderful iconostasis also comes from the main church in the merger. Thanks for the explanation. I do find that interesting, that the parishioners of a Byzantine parish would not want to fully embrace their own imagery and just run on over to St So and Such Roman Rite when they have a yen for some statues. Some day I pray that I am able to visit a Byzantine parish. They are non-existent in Arkansas St John Orthodox Christian Church - Rogers, Arkansas Facebook (10) · Church/Cathedral 1740 S 9th St, Rogers · (248) 756-5528 Closed · Opens tomorrow 6 PM Holy Trinity Orthodox Church Facebook (15) · Church/Cathedral 1812 Watt St, Little Rock · (501) 224-3330 St Nicholas Orthodox Church Facebook (28) · Church/Cathedral 3171 S 48th St, Springdale · (479) 379-6220 Closed · Opens tomorrow 6 PM Annunciation Greek Orthodox Church Facebook (51) · Church/Cathedral 1100 Napa Valley Dr, Little Rock · (501) 221-5300 Closed · Opens Mon 9 AM Holy Transfiguration Orthodox Church Church/Cathedral 292 Co Rd 390, Mountain Home · (815) 258-3668 Closed · Opens tomorrow 7 PM Those are not Catholic! |
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