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 Post subject: The Great Reset
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:46 pm 
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There's been a lot of talk lately about how the WEF wants to implement a "Great Reset," which seems to be a guise for promoting pro-socialist agendas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOCyqWsVkr0
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abp-v ... oy-freedom

Can this actually happen? If so, what can we do about it? It is clear that our governments will impose draconian measures while claiming it's for a good. There is also a rise in favorable views toward socialist policies (esp with my generation, Millennials) and free-market enterprise is "evil."


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:07 pm 
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mia.s wrote:
There's been a lot of talk lately about how the WEF wants to implement a "Great Reset," which seems to be a guise for promoting pro-socialist agendas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOCyqWsVkr0
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abp-v ... oy-freedom

Can this actually happen? If so, what can we do about it? It is clear that our governments will impose draconian measures while claiming it's for a good. There is also a rise in favorable views toward socialist policies (esp with my generation, Millennials) and free-market enterprise is "evil."


I'm afraid it is true.

Much of the problems of modern Christianity have come about through our bishops abdicating traditional Catholic roles -- such as education, health care and caring for the poor -- to the government, with predictable results.

Around 360 AD, the Emperor Julian ("Julian the Apostate") tried to convert the whole Roman Empire to a reformed paganism, which he referred to as "the religion of the Greeks." He wrote a letter to Arsacius, the pagan High Priest of Galatia, which begins:

"The religion of the Greeks does not yet prosper as I would wish, on account of those who profess it. "

He goes on to discuss the shortcomings of the priests of his religion and says,

"For it is disgraceful when no Jew is a beggar and the impious Galileans [the name given by Julian to Christians] support our poor in addition to their own"

And now the religion of the impious Galileans does not prosper because they have turned everything over to the government and it is the religion of the Government which prospers.


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
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More than ever we need to heed Our Lady's desire in her approved apparitions that we need to pray much, especially the Rosary, and make some sacrifices....such as skipping dessert, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:19 pm 
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Dorothy B. wrote:
More than ever we need to heed Our Lady's desire in her approved apparitions that we need to pray much, especially the Rosary, and make some sacrifices....such as skipping dessert, etc.

I think it's going to take material effort -- and the Bishops are going to have to take the lead.


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:39 pm 
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Vern Humphrey wrote:
Dorothy B. wrote:
More than ever we need to heed Our Lady's desire in her approved apparitions that we need to pray much, especially the Rosary, and make some sacrifices....such as skipping dessert, etc.

I think it's going to take material effort -- and the Bishops are going to have to take the lead.


I certainly hope that more bishops would take the lead to remind us about prayer and sacrifice!


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:51 pm 
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The devil telegraphs his plans and apes God's designs.

The "Great Reset" is his version of the second coming, albeit without Christ (or the anti-Christ in this case). Notice how the name "Great Reset" sounds so hopeful and innocuous? The devil will try to usher in a total worldly-based peace based on socialist-humanist ideas, but via the law of the hammer so to speak (laws that limit human freedom). We've seen examples of this in many states around the US where you can't go to Church, but you can visit a strip club during the pandemic. These laws are a test; a warmup to more freedom-restrictive laws the devil will have enacted....and for the record, I'm not against prudent use of law, social distancing, and etc. to slow the spread of the pandemic, so my comments aren't some conspiracy-based rant on "blue" states....in other words, I'm not being political here.

However, this will not be the era of The anti-christ, but perhaps the era of an anti-christ or anti-christ's (like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc.). The plan will fail, but will be used by God to punish the reprobate, admonish believing sinners and shepherd His flock back to the Church (those who have left).

Pretty much the same thing that's been going on throughout human history.

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:46 am 
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Tbh, "The Great Reset" sounded ominous and foreboding to me.

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These laws are a test; a warmup to more freedom-restrictive laws the devil will have enacted....and for the record, I'm not against prudent use of law, social distancing, and etc. to slow the spread of the pandemic, so my comments aren't some conspiracy-based rant on "blue" states....in other words, I'm not being political here.


No, you're not political at all. Many of us saw these measures as temporary, and short-term. If someone had told me back in March that a case would need to reach the SCOTUS for someone to make it known that if an acupuncturist is considered "essential," then so is being able to attend one's place of worship would've caused me to eat my shoe. Perhaps I'm showing my naivete here :oops: , but the way the law has been subverted to prevent kids from attending schools, people from attending church, being able to go to their doctor for actual life-saving care, etc. does nothing less than shock me.

I think you are right that these things are a test or trial to see how far subversive governments can go.

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However, this will not be the era of The anti-christ, but perhaps the era of an anti-christ or anti-christ's (like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc.). The plan will fail, but will be used by God to punish the reprobate, admonish believing sinners and shepherd His flock back to the Church (those who have left).


That's kind of what I'm thinking, too. God knows why this is happening, but I have to admit there is going to be a lot of suffering for the faithful for at least a generation or two. :pray:


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:24 am 
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mia.s wrote:
Tbh, "The Great Reset" sounded ominous and foreboding to me.

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These laws are a test; a warmup to more freedom-restrictive laws the devil will have enacted....and for the record, I'm not against prudent use of law, social distancing, and etc. to slow the spread of the pandemic, so my comments aren't some conspiracy-based rant on "blue" states....in other words, I'm not being political here.


No, you're not political at all. Many of us saw these measures as temporary, and short-term. If someone had told me back in March that a case would need to reach the SCOTUS for someone to make it known that if an acupuncturist is considered "essential," then so is being able to attend one's place of worship would've caused me to eat my shoe. Perhaps I'm showing my naivete here :oops: , but the way the law has been subverted to prevent kids from attending schools, people from attending church, being able to go to their doctor for actual life-saving care, etc. does nothing less than shock me.

I think you are right that these things are a test or trial to see how far subversive governments can go.

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However, this will not be the era of The anti-christ, but perhaps the era of an anti-christ or anti-christ's (like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc.). The plan will fail, but will be used by God to punish the reprobate, admonish believing sinners and shepherd His flock back to the Church (those who have left).


That's kind of what I'm thinking, too. God knows why this is happening, but I have to admit there is going to be a lot of suffering for the faithful for at least a generation or two. :pray:


Until the era of modernism, pandemics were always viewed as a chastisement from God.

Based on our response, I fear we're not hearing the message so to speak.

I know Im guilty of that......

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:43 pm 
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What is the better response?

One thing that I've noticed with this "Great Reset" business is it does nothing to address the problems the pandemic blatantly exposed-- problems with lack of community and broken communities, poor family ties, the current problems with healthcare systems, how should we treat the vulnerable (such as elderly), etc.

I've never understood why people think socialism is going to be some great cure to humanity's problems.


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
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mia.s wrote:
What is the better response?

One thing that I've noticed with this "Great Reset" business is it does nothing to address the problems the pandemic blatantly exposed-- problems with lack of community and broken communities, poor family ties, the current problems with healthcare systems, how should we treat the vulnerable (such as elderly), etc.

I've never understood why people think socialism is going to be some great cure to humanity's problems.


Socialism, which is the antithesis of democracy, has never worked. But it appeals to the simplistic mind, and once it's implemented, it leaves the power structure in total control.


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:41 pm 
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Vern Humphrey wrote:
mia.s wrote:
What is the better response?

One thing that I've noticed with this "Great Reset" business is it does nothing to address the problems the pandemic blatantly exposed-- problems with lack of community and broken communities, poor family ties, the current problems with healthcare systems, how should we treat the vulnerable (such as elderly), etc.

I've never understood why people think socialism is going to be some great cure to humanity's problems.


Socialism, which is the antithesis of democracy, has never worked. But it appeals to the simplistic mind, and once it's implemented, it leaves the power structure in total control.


But we all get free stuff! /s

Yeah, people don't understand what they're giving up.


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:27 pm 
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mia.s wrote:
Vern Humphrey wrote:
mia.s wrote:
What is the better response?

One thing that I've noticed with this "Great Reset" business is it does nothing to address the problems the pandemic blatantly exposed-- problems with lack of community and broken communities, poor family ties, the current problems with healthcare systems, how should we treat the vulnerable (such as elderly), etc.

I've never understood why people think socialism is going to be some great cure to humanity's problems.


Socialism, which is the antithesis of democracy, has never worked. But it appeals to the simplistic mind, and once it's implemented, it leaves the power structure in total control.


But we all get free stuff! /s

Yeah, people don't understand what they're giving up.

Nor have they figured out what will happen when the last working people quit and go on the dole with the rest of them.


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:31 pm 
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Can it happen? Sure. Joke Biden is their candidate. He even uses their slogan build back better. See my signature line. Since then we have been in a state of total governmental anarchy. Laws only apply to those the government wishes to punish. None apply to the government itself. Since then we have been living in a totalitarian state. So, yeah, if the democrats are in power they can and will do to us whatever they want.

Look, we just had an enormously fraudulent election. Tens of thousands of people witnessed it and not one had the courage to take actual physical action to stop it. The bad guys did. As long as that is the status quo there is nothing to stop it. I'd like to think eventually people will fight back, but I'm afraid we'll all just sit in this pot till the water boils.

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
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Can it happen? Sure. Joke Biden is their candidate. He even uses their slogan build back better. See my signature line. Since then we have been in a state of total governmental anarchy. Laws only apply to those the government wishes to punish. None apply to the government itself. Since then we have been living in a totalitarian state. So, yeah, if the democrats are in power they can and will do to us whatever they want.

Look, we just had an enormously fraudulent election. Tens of thousands of people witnessed it and not one had the courage to take actual physical action to stop it. The bad guys did. As long as that is the status quo there is nothing to stop it. I'd like to think eventually people will fight back, but I'm afraid we'll all just sit in this pot till the water boils.

Sadly, you may be right.

". . . all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
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The subjugation of humanity started long before talk of the Great Reset, with only a few hundred multinational finance corporations controlling the bulk of the world economy.


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
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I'm going to leave this here, even though it has political overtones. Or undertones. Whichever.


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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
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Signum Crucis wrote:
I'm going to leave this here, even though it has political overtones. Or undertones. Whichever.


Colorations?

Let's debate...

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
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Peetem wrote:
Signum Crucis wrote:
I'm going to leave this here, even though it has political overtones. Or undertones. Whichever.


Colorations?

Let's debate...

Intimations?

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 Post subject: Re: The Great Reset
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Colorations! (colorations)
Intimations! (intimations)
Implications! (implications)
Politics...…

Not allowed here! (not allowed here)
Please keep them clear! (please keep them clear)
Or you'll pay dear! (or you'll pay dear)
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Or you'll have to gooooo...…..


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https://youtu.be/DmL12NRE4hQ

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