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 Post subject: Should I read Aristotle? How?
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1) Is learning about Aristotle's thought worth it?
2) If yes, how should I approach him?

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 Post subject: Re: Should I read Aristotle? How?
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1) Yes.
2) Adler, Aristotle for Everyone. (Or everybody? Whatever) Don't read Aristotle at this point. He's miserable and largely unintelligible without serious guidance,

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He’s dead. How much more miserable can you get?

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We can't say whether he's miserable or happy until after he's dead. :fyi:

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 Post subject: Re: Should I read Aristotle? How?
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gherkin wrote:
1) Yes.
2) Adler, Aristotle for Everyone. (Or everybody? Whatever) Don't read Aristotle at this point. He's miserable and largely unintelligible without serious guidance,


Thank you very much.

On 1, can you explain a bit more, please - is pure (non-Thomist) Aristotelianism worth reading if I have to delay my Thomism for it?
On 2, yes, that, of course. What next?

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 Post subject: Re: Should I read Aristotle? How?
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Back to that miserable and largely unintelligible thing. In a context of scarcity, focus on St. Thomas. But the Adler book could be a useful thing for that, too.

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He’s dead.


He's not dead; he's resting.

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Tired and shagged out after a prolonged squawk?

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 Post subject: Re: Should I read Aristotle? How?
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He's pining for the fjords. :fyi:

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 Post subject: Re: Should I read Aristotle? How?
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gherkin wrote:
Back to that miserable and largely unintelligible thing. In a context of scarcity, focus on St. Thomas. But the Adler book could be a useful thing for that, too.

If I understand correctly, the first thing is Adler's Aristotle For Everybody, and the second is Aristotle's original work (Nichmachean Ethics?). What do you mean by scarcity, and does the last sentence mean that Adler's book helps in Thomism too?

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 Post subject: Re: Should I read Aristotle? How?
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No, I'm not recommending the Nicomachean Ethics, or any original texts.

By scarcity I mean that time is a scarce resource and must be spent wisely. Reading the texts of Aristotle is, for most people most of the time, not a wise use of time.

Adler's book can help in understanding St. Thomas simply because it can help in understanding Aristotle's thought, and understanding Aristotle's thought helps to understand St. Thomas's.

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 Post subject: Re: Should I read Aristotle? How?
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Thank you. What should I read after Adler's book?

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 Post subject: Re: Should I read Aristotle? How?
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Jack3 wrote:
Thank you. What should I read after Adler's book?


Read his book, “Ten Philosophical Mistakes” and avoid all the mistakes I’ve made (and most of the world makes).

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 Post subject: Re: Should I read Aristotle? How?
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Jack3 wrote:
Thank you. What should I read after Adler's book?

I wasn't actually recommending that you read that book. I was recommending that you read that book if you want to read about Aristotle.

Is your question here about what to read after Adler if you want to keep reading about Aristotle?

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 Post subject: Re: Should I read Aristotle? How?
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gherkin wrote:

Is your question here about what to read after Adler if you want to keep reading about Aristotle?

Yes

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 Post subject: Re: Should I read Aristotle? How?
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I don't know. :fyi: I don't have a ton of books on Aristotle, but I can't really recommend any of the books I have. Books I do not have are not springing to mind.

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 Post subject: Re: Should I read Aristotle? How?
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Okay, thank you.

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