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Author:  ingenting [ Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:27 am ]
Post subject:  What can we say about this hymn?

"Silent night, holy night
All is calm, all is bright"
"Stille Nacht, heilige Nacht
Alles schläft, einsam wacht"

What can we say about this hymn?
What is a silent night? Is it simply a nigth without any sounds whatsoever? Is that what a calm nigth would refer to?
What can you say about this? We're the Holy parents free from all worries whatsoever?
It seems to be either a romanticising or me misunderstanding the words used.
Also, we must say that it refers to Jesus being an infant who never cried after birth.
It is probaby me not understanding all the words as I am not too smart. I cannot even understand a simple hymn.
I am confused.

Author:  Denise Dee [ Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What can we say about this hymn?

We can say it's a beautiful hymn.

It's just a simple poem put to music. I don't see anything confusing about it, ingenting. It doesn't matter if the "silent night" was a night "without any sounds whatsoever" or just a very quiet calm night when there may have been a few quiet sounds.

It's just a hymn to be enjoyed (unless you don't like it, in which case just avoid and ignore it). Just allow it to make whatever impression it makes on you, no need to analyse the meaning of every separate word of it.

Author:  Gandalf the Grey [ Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What can we say about this hymn?

ingenting wrote:
"Silent night, holy night
All is calm, all is bright"
"Stille Nacht, heilige Nacht
Alles schläft, einsam wacht"

What can we say about this hymn?
What is a silent night? Is it simply a nigth without any sounds whatsoever? Is that what a calm nigth would refer to?
What can you say about this? We're the Holy parents free from all worries whatsoever?
It seems to be either a romanticising or me misunderstanding the words used.
Also, we must say that it refers to Jesus being an infant who never cried after birth.
It is probaby me not understanding all the words as I am not too smart. I cannot even understand a simple hymn.
I am confused.



As when it comes to interpreting most kinds of art our interpretations, more often than not, are not problems with the words of the song, or the images on the canvas, but rather are bi-products of our own perceptual frameworks(and all the axioms that constitute that framework)which we use as a filter or a lens through which to "see".

If I may offer some advice: Simply letting go of, or at least setting aside for the time being, those axioms and just absorbing the words and the music, being a little more passive and docile, might help you flesh-out those things that a purely rational examination might not necessarily perceive.

Author:  Obi-Wan Kenobi [ Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What can we say about this hymn?

Wisdom 18:14-16.

Author:  ingenting [ Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What can we say about this hymn?

I see why many people just do want to sing without analysis but this is not me.
I really like analysing and learning something.
I think Xmas is very romanticised by some people.
It seems that Joseph can't have experienced a calm night just like that. Today people think being calm is about being free from any pain or sorrow whatsoever. Only when life is perfect as you want it will you become calm.
What does it really mean to be calm like st Joseph?
He was calm and silent. It is like we are too worried.
Silent Night seem to be about conscience issues.
In the book of Kings we hear about St Elijah finding God and hearinh his conscience in Silence. This is the same for St Joseph in the Nativity story.
This hymn is about a silence that can be extremely painful.
Silence can be extremely scary. It forces you to take responsibility. But then again Jesus wasn't always calm and silent. The Agony in the Garden is a good example.
What do you thik?
And why do you dislike analysing hymns?

Author:  ingenting [ Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What can we say about this hymn?

Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Wisdom 18:14-16.

This texts refers to the Nativity?
Has anyone in the history of the Church commented on this?

Author:  Obi-Wan Kenobi [ Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What can we say about this hymn?

It is generally accepted as referring to the Nativity.

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