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Jack3

Post subject: How do we know?

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:31 am

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How do we "know" anything at all?
(Inspired by Father's question to Dee)

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-From the introduction to Our Father, "On the feasts of the Lord and other important feasts", Syro Malabar rite

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Jack3

Post subject: Re: How do we know?

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:22 pm

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: bump

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"May our tongues proclaim Your truth. May Your Cross be a protection for us as we let our tongues be turned into new harps and sing hymns with fiery lips"

-From the introduction to Our Father, "On the feasts of the Lord and other important feasts", Syro Malabar rite

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Obi-Wan Kenobi

Post subject: Re: How do we know?

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:43 pm

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Epistemology is a deep topic.

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Lucian Hodoboc

Post subject: Re: How do we know?

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:44 am

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I don't think we can ever be 100% sure that we know something...

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gherkin

Post subject: Re: How do we know?

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:00 pm

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I'd say I'm 100% sure that I'm a living human being, that I have a wife and children, that I'm currently typing on a computer, and lots of other things. I'm not "100% sure" in the sense that no silly skeptical doubts like those Descartes deals with could be raised against those beliefs. But then, as St. Thomas says, these doubts are stupid.

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gherkin

Post subject: Re: How do we know?

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:02 pm

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Jack3 wrote:

How do we "know" anything at all?
(Inspired by Father's question to Dee)

By grasping its form. :fyi:

:fyi:

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Obi-Wan Kenobi

Post subject: Re: How do we know?

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:38 pm

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http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/mcm/p ... outh1.html

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theJack

Post subject: Re: How do we know?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:52 am

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Here's an old conversation that covers some basic issues in epistemology: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=129180

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Indeed, the Lord Jesus, when He prayed to the Father, "that all may be one. . . as we are one" (John 17:21-22) opened up vistas closed to human reason, for He implied a certain likeness between the union of the divine Persons, and the unity of God's sons in truth and charity. This likeness reveals that man, who is the only creature on earth which God willed for itself, cannot fully find himself except through a sincere gift of himself. ~ Pope Paul VI, Gaudium et Spes 24.3

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Obi-Wan Kenobi

Post subject: Re: How do we know?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:00 am

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And here's a Whitney Houston video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W029a0tSyls

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theJack

Post subject: Re: How do we know?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:08 am

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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:

And here's a Whitney Houston video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W029a0tSyls

I giggled

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Indeed, the Lord Jesus, when He prayed to the Father, "that all may be one. . . as we are one" (John 17:21-22) opened up vistas closed to human reason, for He implied a certain likeness between the union of the divine Persons, and the unity of God's sons in truth and charity. This likeness reveals that man, who is the only creature on earth which God willed for itself, cannot fully find himself except through a sincere gift of himself. ~ Pope Paul VI, Gaudium et Spes 24.3

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Obi-Wan Kenobi

Post subject: Re: How do we know?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:19 am

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The song has been running through my head every time I see the thread title. I wish my mind made useful associations as easily.

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Jackie

Post subject: Re: How do we know?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:22 pm

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theJack wrote:

Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:

And here's a Whitney Houston video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W029a0tSyls

I giggled

Can't picture that.

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Denise Dee

Post subject: Re: How do we know?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:37 pm

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Jackie wrote:

theJack wrote:

Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:

And here's a Whitney Houston video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W029a0tSyls

I giggled

Can't picture that.

::):

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theJack

Post subject: Re: How do we know?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:55 pm

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Jackie wrote:

theJack wrote:

Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:

And here's a Whitney Houston video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W029a0tSyls

I giggled

Can't picture that.

This should help.

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Indeed, the Lord Jesus, when He prayed to the Father, "that all may be one. . . as we are one" (John 17:21-22) opened up vistas closed to human reason, for He implied a certain likeness between the union of the divine Persons, and the unity of God's sons in truth and charity. This likeness reveals that man, who is the only creature on earth which God willed for itself, cannot fully find himself except through a sincere gift of himself. ~ Pope Paul VI, Gaudium et Spes 24.3

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