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Tell all the people that have not heard.

Not a UFO to those who know The Word, God, Jesus Christ.
Before the scientific community was evolved as it is today God appeared at a time when religion and logic we're very strong. Religion and logic are as strong today but the scientific community has learned that the more science advances the more that it points towards creation. He came from a place, The Place where the family of God existes. In the beginning there was in the Word, The Church the Holy Spirit. And the Word was God, God the Father, and the Word was with God, Jesus Christ in the eternal flesh face to face with God, The creator of the universe arrived to earth as Jesus Christ, God in the flesh, through the womb of a virgin, Mary, Queen of Heaven. He had to be sinless to restore flesh in heaven and redeem the Flesh and soul of mankind for eternal life in heaven. Nothing is allowed in heaven that is defiled. Christianity is the oldest religion.

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Tell all the people that have not heard.

Not a UFO to those who know The Word, God, Jesus Christ.
Before the scientific community was evolved as it is today God appeared at a time when religion and logic we're very strong. Religion and logic are as strong today but the scientific community has learned that the more science advances the more that it points towards creation. He came from a place, The Place where the family of God existes. In the beginning there was in the Word, The Church the Holy Spirit. And the Word was God, God the Father, and the Word was with God, Jesus Christ in the eternal flesh face to face with God, The creator of the universe arrived to earth as Jesus Christ, God in the flesh, through the womb of a virgin, Mary, Queen of Heaven. He had to be sinless to restore flesh in heaven and redeem the Flesh and soul of mankind for eternal life in heaven. Nothing is allowed in heaven that is defiled. Christianity is the oldest religion.

Peace always,
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Christianity is approximately 2000 years old.

Hinduism goes back 4,000 years.

Judaism goes back approx 4,000 years as well.

Buddhism pre-dates Christianity.

Shintoism pre-dates Christianity.

Christianity is older than Islam and Sikhism.

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Christianity is fulfilled Judaism. Jesus Christ in the flesh is God and the intelligence associated with The Church existed before creation.

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John 3:9 in Other Translations
9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.


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Christianity is fulfilled Judaism. Jesus Christ in the flesh is God and the intelligence associated with The Church existed before creation.

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John 3:9 in Other Translations
9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God.


Jesus Christ became flesh at the Incarnation, approximately 2025 years ago.

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Jesus Christ became human sinless flesh through the ark of the new covenant. He existed as divine flesh before creation face to face with God.

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Jesus Christ became human sinless flesh through the ark of the new covenant. He existed as divine flesh before creation face to face with God.

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How can that possibly be? There was no flesh before creation.


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Jesus Christ became human sinless flesh through the ark of the new covenant. He existed as divine flesh before creation face to face with God.

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Jesus in his divinity existed always. He became flesh at the incarnation. This is the teaching of Holy Mother Church.

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"The Word became flesh." Probably the most powerful 4 words in the new testament and the Old testament, or even ever written. Proof Jesus is God. The only way Jesus could be God is that he was not created, but existed in the divine flesh as God, divine face to face with God and the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, before creation. The Keys to the Kingdom are given to those who as Peter, through his confession, realize Jesus is God.

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"Deus fit homo ut homo fieret Deus." Author, The Church Fathers.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:20 am
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Matthew 7:20 "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

January 14th, 1_14_23
John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Jan 14 2023, 1_14_23
John 14:23, Jesus answered and said to him, 'If anyone loves Me, he will follow My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our dwelling with him.


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"The Word became flesh." Probably the most powerful 4 words in the new testament and the Old testament, or even ever written. Proof Jesus is God. The only way Jesus could be God is that he was not created, but existed in the divine flesh as God, divine face to face with God and the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, before creation. The Keys to the Kingdom are given to those who as Peter, through his confession, realize Jesus is God.

Peace always,
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"Deus fit homo ut homo fieret Deus." Author, The Church Fathers.

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Matthew 7:20 "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

January 14th, 1_14_23
John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Jan 14 2023, 1_14_23
John 14:23, Jesus answered and said to him, 'If anyone loves Me, he will follow My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our dwelling with him.


Denying the Incarnation, making up some gobbeldy gook about "in the divine flesh", this is not the doctrine of the Church. The Triune God has always been and always shall be. The Second Person of the Triune God put on flesh at the Incarnation. Going to ask you to back up your "divine flesh" existing pre-incarnation claim with official Catholic teaching.

Also, the Keys to the Kingdom were given to Peter as the first Pope. They are passed on through the Papacy. As neither of us is the pope, we don't hold these keys.

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Through Peter's confession, he realized Jesus is God, Eternal life to the flesh is given to those as Peter who confess as he. If we truely believe in the Divinity of Jesus we have to believe in everyting he taught on earth and in the heavens, and if everything He taught were written the world could not even contain the books, So where do we go to get the answers? The Word, The Catholic Church, The Trinity, all present before creation was even created was ever created was created, Jesus Christ was present in the Eternal Divine flesh face to face with God and The Holy Spirit, The Trinity before creation. Jesus Christ would have to be present as eternal divine flesh prior to creation or He could not be God. Jesus lowered himself throught the Arc of the Covenant, the womb of a Virgin and became Human sinless flesh, This changed his DNA to the image of mankind to preach and teach the new Covenant. The Host allows us to share in His divinity passed down through the Papacy to those that believe. Christianity is the only religion that promises eternal divine life, redemption life in heaven.

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1 Corinthians 6:19
19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;


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Jesus Christ would have to be present as eternal divine flesh prior to creation or He could not be God. Jesus lowered himself throught the Arc of the Covenant, the womd of a Virgin and became Human sinless flesh, This changed his DNA to the image of mankind to preach and teach the new Covenant. The Host allows us to share in His divinity passed down through the Papacy to those that believe. Christianity is the only religion that promises eternal divine life, redemption life in heaven.

Peace always,
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posted 6:19 am 1/23/23
1 Corinthians 6:19
19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;


@StephenAndrewMaher

I am officially requesting you produce proof that the Catholic Church teaches "eternal divine flesh", that the Church teaches Christ was in flesh prior to the incarnation. That Christ changed his DNA, again, provide proof.

My next request will be to a moderator. It is a simple matter to either say "I have come up with this opinion on my own" or to produce proofs.

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Before Jesus took upon Himself flesh and blood, He existed eternally in heaven with God the father and God the Holy Spirit. All three members of the Godhead were present at the creation of this material universe (Genesis 1:1-2; John 1:1-3; Hebrews 1:1-2)

1 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.

In the beginning was the Word, [The Holy Spirit, The Catholic Church] and the Word was with God, [Jesus Christ in Eternal Flesh] and the Word was God. [God the Father][2] The same was in the beginning with God. [3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


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Before Jesus took upon Himself flesh and blood, He existed eternally in heaven with God the father and God the Holy Spirit. All three members of the Godhead were present at the creation of this material universe (Genesis 1:1-2; John 1:1-3; Hebrews 1:1-2)

1 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.

In the beginning was the Word, [The Holy Spirit, The Catholic Church] and the Word was with God, [Jesus Christ in Eternal Flesh] and the Word was God. [God the Father][2] The same was in the beginning with God. [3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


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The highlighted words above refute the "eternal divine flesh" claim.


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Before Jesus took upon Himself Human Flesh anb Blood on earth, He existed eternally in heaven with God the father and God the Holy Spirit.

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Posted 9:03 pm 1-23-24
John 9:3
3 “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.

Jeremiah 23:24
24 “No one can hide so that I can’t see him,” declares the Lord.
“I fill heaven and earth!” declares the Lord.

Matthew 1:23
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.


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Before Jesus took upon Himself Human Flesh anb Blood on earth, He existed eternally in heaven with God the father and God the Holy Spirit.

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Posted 9:03 pm 1-23-24
John 9:3
3 “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.

Jeremiah 23:24
24 “No one can hide so that I can’t see him,” declares the Lord.
“I fill heaven and earth!” declares the Lord.

Matthew 1:23
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.


Exactly correct. Christ existed from the beginning. He took on flesh at approx 5 BCE, the Incarnation. He did not change from some sort of "woooo woooo" divine flesh to human flesh. He was fully divine from always. He was fully human AND fully divine at the Incarnation.

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Please produce irrefutable proof that Christ had DNA prior to the Incarnation, and changed it to "human DNA".


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Thanks Crucis, I am working on this answer.

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If we truly believe in the Divinity of Jesus we believe in everything that he taught on Earth and in heaven, if it were written not even the world could contain the books. So where do we go to get the answers? All Protestant religions were built on a protest. They took what was derived from infinite wisdom and improved it.They made it better based on their protests. They were given the freedom to pick and choose the doctrine to fit their lifestyle. When they realize this mistake and stop protesting, protestantism will cease to exist and go back to Catholicism.

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Divine DNA

“God first wills Christ as his supreme work.” [1] Creation could not have been empty of Christ for billions of years. In other words, God’s “first idea” and priority was to make the Godself both visible and shareable. The word used in the Bible for this idea was Logos (from Greek philosophy), which I would translate as the “Blueprint” or Primordial Pattern for reality. The whole of creation is the beloved community, the partner in the divine dance. Everything is the “child of God”—not only Jesus. There are no exceptions. When you think of it, what else could anything be? All creation must in some way carry the divine DNA of the Creator."
GIVING BIRTH TO CHRIST
The DNA of Creation
from Center for Action and Contemplation"

Matthew 8:27
"What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!"

He is our shepherd (John 10:11, 14), friend (John 15:15), and savior (Matthew 1:21), but He is also our judge (Acts 10:42), king (Revelation 19:16), and God.

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