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 Post subject: How do we know?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:31 am 
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How do we "know" anything at all?
(Inspired by Father's question to Dee)

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 Post subject: Re: How do we know?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:22 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: How do we know?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:43 pm 
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Epistemology is a deep topic.

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 Post subject: Re: How do we know?
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I don't think we can ever be 100% sure that we know something...


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 Post subject: Re: How do we know?
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I'd say I'm 100% sure that I'm a living human being, that I have a wife and children, that I'm currently typing on a computer, and lots of other things. I'm not "100% sure" in the sense that no silly skeptical doubts like those Descartes deals with could be raised against those beliefs. But then, as St. Thomas says, these doubts are stupid. :)

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 Post subject: Re: How do we know?
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Jack3 wrote:
How do we "know" anything at all?
(Inspired by Father's question to Dee)

By grasping its form. :fyi:

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 Post subject: Re: How do we know?
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http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/mcm/p ... outh1.html

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 Post subject: Re: How do we know?
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Here's an old conversation that covers some basic issues in epistemology: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=129180

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Indeed, the Lord Jesus, when He prayed to the Father, "that all may be one. . . as we are one" (John 17:21-22) opened up vistas closed to human reason, for He implied a certain likeness between the union of the divine Persons, and the unity of God's sons in truth and charity. This likeness reveals that man, who is the only creature on earth which God willed for itself, cannot fully find himself except through a sincere gift of himself. ~ Pope Paul VI, Gaudium et Spes 24.3


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 Post subject: Re: How do we know?
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And here's a Whitney Houston video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W029a0tSyls

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 Post subject: Re: How do we know?
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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
And here's a Whitney Houston video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W029a0tSyls

I giggled

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Indeed, the Lord Jesus, when He prayed to the Father, "that all may be one. . . as we are one" (John 17:21-22) opened up vistas closed to human reason, for He implied a certain likeness between the union of the divine Persons, and the unity of God's sons in truth and charity. This likeness reveals that man, who is the only creature on earth which God willed for itself, cannot fully find himself except through a sincere gift of himself. ~ Pope Paul VI, Gaudium et Spes 24.3


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 Post subject: Re: How do we know?
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The song has been running through my head every time I see the thread title. I wish my mind made useful associations as easily.

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 Post subject: Re: How do we know?
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theJack wrote:
Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
And here's a Whitney Houston video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W029a0tSyls

I giggled

Can't picture that.

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 Post subject: Re: How do we know?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:37 pm 
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Jackie wrote:
theJack wrote:
Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
And here's a Whitney Houston video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W029a0tSyls

I giggled

Can't picture that.

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 Post subject: Re: How do we know?
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Jackie wrote:
theJack wrote:
Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
And here's a Whitney Houston video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W029a0tSyls

I giggled

Can't picture that.

This should help.

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Indeed, the Lord Jesus, when He prayed to the Father, "that all may be one. . . as we are one" (John 17:21-22) opened up vistas closed to human reason, for He implied a certain likeness between the union of the divine Persons, and the unity of God's sons in truth and charity. This likeness reveals that man, who is the only creature on earth which God willed for itself, cannot fully find himself except through a sincere gift of himself. ~ Pope Paul VI, Gaudium et Spes 24.3


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