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 Post subject: Does Mexico still persecute Catholics..Martyr Miguel Pro
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:59 am 
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Mexico used to be a Catholic country but then certain undesirables took over and--killed Fr Pro

and God knows what else is happening there

I need to find a good book on the modern history of Mexico
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 Post subject: Re: Does Mexico still persecute Catholics..Martyr Miguel Pro
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The government? No. The drug cartels? Yes.

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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
The government? No. The drug cartels? Yes.

i think it is both

it wasn't a drug cartel that killed Pro
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A century ago. You said, "still." Some anti-Catholic laws were still on the books when St. JP II made his visit to Mexico; the Mexican president paid on his behalf the fines for wearing clerical garb in public, but I believe that law is no longer in force.

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A century ago. You said, "still." Some anti-Catholic laws were still on the books when St. JP II made his visit to Mexico; the Mexican president paid on his behalf the fines for wearing clerical garb in public, but I believe that law is no longer in force.

so now it is only the US that persecutes Catholics..

sardonic comment but there is a truth to it

you can be Catholic in this country but do NOT ever be an enthused, outspoken one who shares the faith--
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A century ago. You said, "still." Some anti-Catholic laws were still on the books when St. JP II made his visit to Mexico; the Mexican president paid on his behalf the fines for wearing clerical garb in public, but I believe that law is no longer in force.


There are indeed still anti-clerical laws on the books in Mexico, but I don't believe they are enforced.

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flyingaway
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is there a good history of modern Mexico book out there?
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... you can be Catholic in this country but do NOT ever be an enthused, outspoken one who shares the faith--


Why not? Your outspeaking and enthusiasm might drive some off, but that is the case in any strongly held and overtly announced belief. Such as the Civil War or plastic models.

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Highlander wrote:
flyingaway wrote:
... you can be Catholic in this country but do NOT ever be an enthused, outspoken one who shares the faith--


Why not? Your outspeaking and enthusiasm might drive some off, but that is the case in any strongly held and overtly announced belief. Such as the Civil War or plastic models.


Or books.

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GKC wrote:
Highlander wrote:
flyingaway wrote:
... you can be Catholic in this country but do NOT ever be an enthused, outspoken one who shares the faith--


Why not? Your outspeaking and enthusiasm might drive some off, but that is the case in any strongly held and overtly announced belief. Such as the Civil War or plastic models.


Or books.


Books are exempt.

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Highlander wrote:
flyingaway wrote:
... you can be Catholic in this country but do NOT ever be an enthused, outspoken one who shares the faith--


Why not? Your outspeaking and enthusiasm might drive some off, but that is the case in any strongly held and overtly announced belief. Such as the Civil War or plastic models.

huh??
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GKC
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flyingaway wrote:
Highlander wrote:
flyingaway wrote:
... you can be Catholic in this country but do NOT ever be an enthused, outspoken one who shares the faith--


Why not? Your outspeaking and enthusiasm might drive some off, but that is the case in any strongly held and overtly announced belief. Such as the Civil War or plastic models.

huh??



You need to know Highlander a little better.

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Highlander
 Post subject: Re: Does Mexico still persecute Catholics..Martyr Miguel Pro
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GKC wrote:
flyingaway wrote:
Highlander wrote:
flyingaway wrote:
... you can be Catholic in this country but do NOT ever be an enthused, outspoken one who shares the faith--


Why not? Your outspeaking and enthusiasm might drive some off, but that is the case in any strongly held and overtly announced belief. Such as the Civil War or plastic models.

huh??



You need to know Highlander a little better.


huh??

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I know there's only one.

I also know I need a beating a dead horse emoticon.

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theJack wrote:
I know there's only one.

I also know I need a beating a dead horse emoticon.


There may be only one of those, too.

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GKC wrote:
flyingaway wrote:
Highlander wrote:
flyingaway wrote:
... you can be Catholic in this country but do NOT ever be an enthused, outspoken one who shares the faith--


Why not? Your outspeaking and enthusiasm might drive some off, but that is the case in any strongly held and overtly announced belief. Such as the Civil War or plastic models.

huh??



You need to know Highlander a little better.


i need to know a lot of htings better, like how to become rich and stuff..:)
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flyingaway wrote:
GKC wrote:
flyingaway wrote:
Highlander wrote:
flyingaway wrote:
... you can be Catholic in this country but do NOT ever be an enthused, outspoken one who shares the faith--


Why not? Your outspeaking and enthusiasm might drive some off, but that is the case in any strongly held and overtly announced belief. Such as the Civil War or plastic models.

huh??



You need to know Highlander a little better.


i need to know a lot of htings better, like how to become rich and stuff..:)


Have you asked Highlander?

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You need to know Highlander a little better.


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i need to know a lot of htings better, like how to become rich and stuff..:)


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Have you asked Highlander?


is he rich?

but maybe all he knows is how he himself got rich.. :)
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Highlander
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Can't help with the rich part, but I'm a whiz at stuff.

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Highlander wrote:
Can't help with the rich part, but I'm a whiz at stuff.

you're not rich?

well, I don't want to talk to you then..

(I wanted to pretend for a moment I was some other kind of person)

actually, I prefer the non-rich

the only rich person I like is Trump. He does really really good things w/ his resources.. with all the blessings he has been given. Now some "blessings" he's gotten are from the devil but I am not talking about those ones (Stormy.. Cohen.. CNN)
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