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 Post subject: Absolution without Confession?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:48 pm 
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He said Catholics have more options for absolution, because church officials now say forgiveness can come through Mass or private prayer, instead of only through one-on-one confession.


The above was in an interview with a priest about confession. In short, the priest presented an "updated" view of reconciliation. If the quote is true, then I, entering the Mass in a state of mortal sin, could participate in the Penitential Rite, and then fully and unreservedly partake in Communion without error? Or, immediately before Communion is taken, present a private prayer with the same validity? Thus private prayer and the Penitential Rite are equal in efficacy to Confession?

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 Post subject: Re: Absolution without Confession?
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Other things, such as the penitential rite, forgive venial sins. They don't forgive mortal sins.

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 Post subject: Re: Absolution without Confession?
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Then, is this statement correct?

Mortal sins can only be addressed through Reconciliation, if Reconciliation is available.

Or, is this statement correct?

One may have one's mortal sins forgiven through Reconciliation. There are also one or more other ways to have mortal sins forgiven.

Or am I wandering in the wilderness on this?

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 Post subject: Re: Absolution without Confession?
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Perfect contrition also remits mortal sins. But it requires confession at the next reasonable opportunity.

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 Post subject: Re: Absolution without Confession?
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Martyrdom also forgives all sins.

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 Post subject: Re: Absolution without Confession?
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Those are clear statements, it seems to me. Forgiveness is dependent upon contrition and confession -- though the sequence may differ. Or martyrdom. But, in the common sense, one must, immediately or eventually, confess one's mortal sins.

If I am clear on that, then the original quote, which started all this, is incorrect. As I read the quote, it implies that forgiveness for mortal sins is available via mechanisms other than confession. It does not make a distinction between mortal and venial sins and, in the absence of that distinction, the quote implies that both are covered by the statement. Or I infer that it does.

But, not to worry, I'm not going to ignore confession as a sacrament, persuaded that it is not necessary in my life. Unless, of course, I never commit a mortal sin and have no need for it. Except before Easter, per the Church.

Thank you for the education. And I do distinguish between the incisiveness of what you have said and how I have launched off from it.

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 Post subject: Re: Absolution without Confession?
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The confession can be at any time, not just during Easter. But it's hard to get holy confessing once a year (or even twice).

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 Post subject: Re: Absolution without Confession?
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The advice I normally see is that people who do not frequently commit mortal sins should go to confession about once a month, whereas people who commit a mortal sin should go to confession as soon as reasonably possible.

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 Post subject: Re: Absolution without Confession?
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Perfect contrition also remits mortal sins. But it requires [the intention, at least implicit, to avail oneself of] confession at the next reasonable opportunity.


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