Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Are you pointing that there could be a perceived tension between answering "Yes" to both parts of question 1? Even though that particular tension is not the reason you answered 1a with a "No"?
Among other things, yes, which speaks to the poor wording of the question, and the likely lack of understanding of the underlying concept. But that was not the primary point.
GKC, Obi-Wan and Doom. I'm reading along.
Okay, infallibility as making perfect claims versus infallibility as being the ultimate source.
These distinctions are easy to make if you think they will help me clarify my wording.
It won't take a whole conversation to clarify it, and I wouldn't say I am 'fumbling'. If I am misusing the term (or lacking a technical definition which I was not taught in my own religion of Judaism), I'm sure you can forgive me. Perhaps a little less insulting and a little more amicable in sharing your technical Catholic terminology for an honest inquirer?
GKC, Leading me on, were you? Devious.
Doom, I was not going for the Pope saying the sky is green.
And I certainly didn't say the pope is infallible to be deliberatively inflammatory.
You say the office, not the pope is infallible. Please clarify. Is the office the ultimate authority? Can it make mistakes? Does the pope have a special line to God above normal priests, or is it just a matter of hierarchy that you accept the pope's words as ...binding or ultimate or what have you.
And again, the infallibility of the Pope is still quite off topic