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I am currently reading a couple of books by the Orthodox liturgical scholar Fr. Alexander Schmemann. There is some excellent material in his books. Anyone involved in liturgy should read him.

Here is my complex and difficult question: Does anyone know how to pronounce is LAST name. No matter how I say it, and where I put the emphasis, it does NOT sound correct. Does anyone know?

Sh ME man
sh me MAN
Skme MAN
Sk ME man

This does not even take into account the first M may not even be pronounced.

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 Post subject: Re: Alexander Schmemann
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My guess is that it is a German name in which case "sch" would be pronounced like "sh" and I think the accent would be on the first syllable: SHME-mahn.

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 Post subject: Re: Alexander Schmemann
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:56 am 
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My guess is that it is a German name in which case "sch" would be pronounced like "sh" and I think the accent would be on the first syllable: SHME-mahn.
I believe that's correct.

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 Post subject: Re: Alexander Schmemann
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According to OrthodoxWiki, Fr. Schmemann was born in Estonia to Russian émigrés. I don’t, however, know how that would affect the pronunciation of his name.

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 Post subject: Re: Alexander Schmemann
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Depends on the locality.

Among native U.S. English speakers, I've always heard it pronounced SHMAY mn (no vowel between the m and n)

but then, we say "Thomas A-kwy-nus" and "Francis de Sayles" - whereas people with other first languages say them differently

Sometimes what the most people say is considered the most correct (for that locality)


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 Post subject: Re: Alexander Schmemann
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Depends on the locality.

Among native U.S. English speakers, I've always heard it pronounced SHMAY mn (no vowel between the m and n)

Yes, but these are the same people who pronounce Neumann "NEW-mn" when it is closer to "NOI-mahn"

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 Post subject: Re: Alexander Schmemann
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I would have guessed it was SHMEM-ən. (The second e being a schwa)

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 Post subject: Re: Alexander Schmemann
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Greg wrote:
According to OrthodoxWiki, Fr. Schmemann was born in Estonia to Russian émigrés. I don’t, however, know how that would affect the pronunciation of his name.

His name, however, is certainly not Estonian nor Russian. I would go for the German pronunciation presented above.

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 Post subject: Re: Alexander Schmemann
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Greetings,

thanks for all the input. His books are very good.

ShMAY - mahn

sounds good.

I have also heard both: AU gusteen and au GUST een , and au gust EEN.

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 Post subject: Re: Alexander Schmemann
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The best way to pronounce his name is to try and not pronounce it like he is an american.

ShMAY - mahn is wrong.

Sh-me[as in met] - mann

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TP wrote:
I have also heard both: AU gusteen and au GUST een , and au gust EEN.

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Happens to be the name of our parish, and we pronounce it uh-GUS-tin.....but then we're in NY, so who knows. :wink:

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TP wrote:
I have also heard both: AU gusteen and au GUST een , and au gust EEN.

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Happens to be the name of our parish, and we pronounce it uh-GUS-tin.....but then we're in NY, so who knows. :wink:

This is pretty much how I pronounce it. Besides that I most commonly hear AU-gusteen.

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