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We have been discussing Sung Mass. The norm for mass is the Sung mass, often known as the High Mass. But what about daily mass? Should this be sung as well? Perhaps sung mass, but hymns?

The spoken was developed out of the Private Mass. Priests said private masses(Priest with server), and they were spoken because there were often many masses in the same church. This spoken mass, then became what we know as the low mass. The Low mass is just an extension of the private mass. Do we want the 'Private mass' the norm for celebration of a mass with a congregation?

Issues: Length: Sung mass is longer and people at daily mass need to get to work?
Congregation size: Daily mass often only has 20-30 people and are elderly. Would they sing at a sung mass?
Should daily mass be replaced by Sung Morning prayer/Evening Prayer. Some eastern rites haven't developed a daily mass tradition and they chant the psalms instead. Is that the direction we should go, especially with the lack of priests?

What do we do with daily mass: Do we still sing it? Do we speak it? Do we still retain it? Opinions?

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Since you're talking about the novus ordo, I think you keep the daily mass as a "non-sung" mass, which would at least still be in keeping with tradition and the tridentine low mass.


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As for daily mass in my parish, we do sing one song: first few verses before the mass and last verse or several after the mass.

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Daily mass in my parish is always spoken, never sung.

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Greetings,

Are your weekend masses sung?

That is the question. If the norm of the Mass according to Musicam Sacram is a sung mass, should we also be singing the Mass daily? Should we be using the Private Mass paradigm for a mass with a community?

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In a sung Mass, which parts are sung? On Sundays, we sing the Gloria, and of course there are hymns (but I don't think that's what you mean),

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St. Brigid wrote:
In a sung Mass, which parts are sung? On Sundays, we sing the Gloria, and of course there are hymns (but I don't think that's what you mean),

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In a sung Mass, virtually everything is supposed to be chanted...
I don't think the readings are chanted/sung, but the gospel, i think CAN be (should be?).

willing to be corrected..

perhaps the typical EWTN mass is a good model?


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Greetings,

According to Musicam Sacram all the dialogs between the priest and the congregaton should be sung before any hymns are sung. The goal is to sing the Mass, not sing AT mass.

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very well stated.


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tAnGo wrote:
very well stated.


What does this mean to the Rock crowd?

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catholic defender wrote:
tAnGo wrote:
very well stated.


What does this mean to the Rock crowd?


"The goal is to sing the Mass, not sing AT mass."


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I've never seen a sung NO mass, only Byzantine Liturgy.

Have you seen this article from Adoremus Bulletin?

[url=http://www.adoremus.org/1006LiturgyHymns.html]Online Edition - October 2006
Vol. XII, No. 7
St. Mark's -- A Liturgy Without Hymns[/url]

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tAnGo wrote:
catholic defender wrote:
tAnGo wrote:
very well stated.


What does this mean to the Rock crowd?


"The goal is to sing the Mass, not sing AT mass."


Are you thinking about something like a rock opera?

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