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 Post subject: St. James the "Greater", Son of Thunder and Apostle
PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:14 am 
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James along with his Brother John are identified by St. Mark as the sons of Zebedee, but with the added surname "Boanerges" that is, "sons of thunder. Mark 3:17

What does this mean? Is this a great honor being placed on Father Zebedee?

Jesus knew the Apostles very core and he gave James and John the nickname of "thunder" because of their disposition.

Consider Luke 9:54, "When the days drew near for him to be received up, he set his face to go to Jerusalem. And he sent messengers ahead of him, who went and entered a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him; but the people would not receive him, because his face was set toward Jerusalem. And when his disciples James and John saw it, they said, "Lord, do you want us to bid fire come down from heaven and consume them?" Luke 9:51-54

In this case, Jesus did not compliment their thought, but maintained His purpose of going to other villages on their way to Jerusalem.

A lot of the time when the New Testament reports on an event, we are getting perhaps the jest of what was taking place, but I have to imagine that in the three years the Apostles were with Jesus, there was a whole lot more. That is why the Catholic Faith makes the most sense in understanding the culture, the environment, and the people that Jesus encountered to get a more clear picture.

Who was James that Jesus would nickname "son of thunder"? Father Zebedee was a fisherman from Bathsaida of Galilee who made his mark in the fishing industry including Capernaum.

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 Post subject: Re: St. James the "Greater", Son of Thunder and Apostle
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I thought Our Lord Jesus Christ was using His sense of humor when he called James and John "sons of thunder", because they had wanted to rain down fire from heaven to consume the Samaritans.


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 Post subject: Re: St. James the "Greater", Son of Thunder and Apostle
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:58 am 
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Dorothy B. wrote:
I thought Our Lord Jesus Christ was using His sense of humor when he called James and John "sons of thunder", because they had wanted to rain down fire from heaven to consume the Samaritans.


Hi Dorothy, it's been a long time, great to see you! There might be a number of reasons, it could be the rain of fire from heaven, certainly that applies. I think this title gave them special rank of authority and, along with Peter, they were the only apostles to witness the Transfiguration and to hear the voice of God the Father himself (and in vision to see Moses and Elijah).

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 Post subject: Re: St. James the "Greater", Son of Thunder and Apostle
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:02 am 
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Thank you for your response and input. About James and John being there at the Transfiguration explains a lot.

I look forward to your writings!


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