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 Post subject: Consubstantiality
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:37 am 
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Ice is the same substance as water. Water is the same substance as steam. The Father is consubstantial or one susbstance with the son. The son is consubstantial or one substance with the spirit. (This is copyrighted).

God is like a divine substance that exists in three states. These states are called hypostases which means under-states.

The Holy Spirit is the breath of God.
In my view, water is the human hypostasis as it is the main constituent of the human body.
Ice is the hypostasis of the Father.


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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:48 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:58 am 
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You're using the word "substance" in two different senses without realizing it.


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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
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May I encourage you to read Frank Sheed's Theology for Beginners? It's clear you have a good and passionate heart, but it would be good to give your thoughts some direction.


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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
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sunshine1 wrote:
Ice is the same substance as water. Water is the same substance as steam. The Father is consubstantial or one susbstance with the son. The son is consubstantial or one substance with the spirit. (This is copyrighted).

If it's copyrighted, you must cite the source. :fyi: It's not like we're hung up on APA formatting (a link to the source material will suffice), but if you cite copyrighted material, you must also cite the source in order to avoid having the board receive ugly letters from the copyright holders (or their attorneys) sometime in the future. That's a board rule.

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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
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May I encourage you to read Frank Sheed's Theology for Beginners? It's clear you have a good and passionate heart, but it would be good to give your thoughts some direction.

You recommended I read another book of his a while back, Theology and Sanity, and I quite like the work.

I was just chiming in to say I like the author and this sounds like a good recommendation.


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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
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sunshine1 wrote:
Ice is the same substance as water. Water is the same substance as steam. The Father is consubstantial or one susbstance with the son. The son is consubstantial or one substance with the spirit. (This is copyrighted).

If it's copyrighted, you must cite the source. :fyi: It's not like we're hung up on APA formatting (a link to the source material will suffice), but if you cite copyrighted material, you must also cite the source in order to avoid having the board receive ugly letters from the copyright holders (or their attorneys) sometime in the future. That's a board rule.

I think he's trying to claim copyright on what he wrote.


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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
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Mrs. Timmy wrote:
sunshine1 wrote:
Ice is the same substance as water. Water is the same substance as steam. The Father is consubstantial or one susbstance with the son. The son is consubstantial or one substance with the spirit. (This is copyrighted).

If it's copyrighted, you must cite the source. :fyi: It's not like we're hung up on APA formatting (a link to the source material will suffice), but if you cite copyrighted material, you must also cite the source in order to avoid having the board receive ugly letters from the copyright holders (or their attorneys) sometime in the future. That's a board rule.

I think he's trying to claim copyright on what he wrote.

In that case, padre, she (if her Spanish is as good as she claims, that is) her understanding of copyright law is as faulty as her catechesis to date.

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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
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No hablo español.

Parlez-vous français? C'est ma deuxième langue nationale :fyi: oui oui


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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:17 pm 
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Is that German? I don't speak German.






Yes, I know it's French. I don't speak that either.


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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:21 pm 
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Is that German? I don't speak German.






Yes, I know it's French. I don't speak that either.


ZUT ALORS L'Abbe ne parle pas le français! C'est incroyable!


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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:22 pm 
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Wait a minute, why I can not see my or Abbé's signatures anymore?


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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
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Wait a minute, why I can not see my or Abbé's signatures anymore?



Regardez le violence inhérente à la système.


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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:39 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Consubstantiality
PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:50 pm 
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Why does Mrs. Timmy have one, it's not fair :cry:


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