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Are they still around? I imagine I would like to meet a more orthodox Christian that comes from a strong Weslyian tradition. Perhaps most have left for other denominations...or became Catholic:) (or Eastern Orthodox).


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 Post subject: Re: Conservative Methodists?
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Are they still around? I imagine I would like to meet a more orthodox Christian that comes from a strong Weslyian tradition. Perhaps most have left for other denominations...or became Catholic:) (or Eastern Orthodox).

How do you do, Nathan? :wave I'm Mrs. Timmy: former Methodist who left when it took that hard left turn in the 70's.

See, you've known one for years, and didn't even realize it! :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Conservative Methodists?
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 Post subject: Re: Conservative Methodists?
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Mrs. Timmy wrote:
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Are they still around? I imagine I would like to meet a more orthodox Christian that comes from a strong Weslyian tradition. Perhaps most have left for other denominations...or became Catholic:) (or Eastern Orthodox).

How do you do, Nathan? :wave I'm Mrs. Timmy: former Methodist who left when it took that hard left turn in the 70's.

See, you've known one for years, and didn't even realize it! :mrgreen:


Ah, I was wondering if there were any that were still Methodists.

They're kind of an odd bunch in that they believe Grace is both imparted AND imputed.

Btw, I think Obi answered my question.


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 Post subject: Re: Conservative Methodists?
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Nathan wrote:
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Are they still around? I imagine I would like to meet a more orthodox Christian that comes from a strong Weslyian tradition. Perhaps most have left for other denominations...or became Catholic:) (or Eastern Orthodox).

How do you do, Nathan? :wave I'm Mrs. Timmy: former Methodist who left when it took that hard left turn in the 70's.

See, you've known one for years, and didn't even realize it! :mrgreen:


Ah, I was wondering if there were any that were still Methodists.

They're kind of an odd bunch in that they believe Grace is both imparted AND imputed.

Btw, I think Obi answered my question.


That response is also applicable for Anglicans and (in comparison to some) Catholics as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Conservative Methodists?
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Mrs. Timmy wrote:
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Nathan wrote:
Are they still around? I imagine I would like to meet a more orthodox Christian that comes from a strong Weslyian tradition. Perhaps most have left for other denominations...or became Catholic:) (or Eastern Orthodox).

How do you do, Nathan? :wave I'm Mrs. Timmy: former Methodist who left when it took that hard left turn in the 70's.

See, you've known one for years, and didn't even realize it! :mrgreen:


Ah, I was wondering if there were any that were still Methodists.

They're kind of an odd bunch in that they believe Grace is both imparted AND imputed.

Btw, I think Obi answered my question.


That response is also applicable for Anglicans and (in comparison to some) Catholics as well.


I have never been to Africa.


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 Post subject: Re: Conservative Methodists?
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Nathan wrote:
Are they still around? I imagine I would like to meet a more orthodox Christian that comes from a strong Weslyian tradition. Perhaps most have left for other denominations...or became Catholic:) (or Eastern Orthodox).

How do you do, Nathan? :wave I'm Mrs. Timmy: former Methodist who left when it took that hard left turn in the 70's.

See, you've known one for years, and didn't even realize it! :mrgreen:


Ah, I was wondering if there were any that were still Methodists.

They're kind of an odd bunch in that they believe Grace is both imparted AND imputed.

Btw, I think Obi answered my question.


That response is also applicable for Anglicans and (in comparison to some) Catholics as well.


I have never been to Africa.


Understood. I was recalling that every time the Angican/Episcopal or the USCCB wants to effect a paradigm shift to the left, it always seems to be the the African clerics who fight it the most vociferously. God bless 'em!

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 Post subject: Re: Conservative Methodists?
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Mrs. Timmy wrote:
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How do you do, Nathan? :wave I'm Mrs. Timmy: former Methodist who left when it took that hard left turn in the 70's.

See, you've known one for years, and didn't even realize it! :mrgreen:


Ah, I was wondering if there were any that were still Methodists.

They're kind of an odd bunch in that they believe Grace is both imparted AND imputed.

Btw, I think Obi answered my question.


That response is also applicable for Anglicans and (in comparison to some) Catholics as well.


I have never been to Africa.


Understood. I was recalling that every time the Angican/Episcopal or the USCCB wants to effect a paradigm shift to the left, it always seems to be the the African clerics who fight it the most vociferously. God bless 'em!


That they do. Bless their (relatively) low church Anglican bishops. And your guys, too.

I went to Tijuana once.


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 Post subject: Re: Conservative Methodists?
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Been to Mexico many a time, but never to Tijuana. To be honest, I don't care much for the border towns. To see the real beauty of Mexico lindo, you must go beyond la frontera. :fyi:

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 Post subject: Re: Conservative Methodists?
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Historically, Methodists have always been big supporters of social and political reform, it has been that way ever since Wesley. Methodists have always been on the forefront pushing social reform, according to the Wesley, pushing for social reform is an important part of the gospel

The paradigm shift wasn't within the Methodist church, the paradigm shift was within the progressive movement itself.

Methodists have always supported Progressivism, Methodists were part of the abolitionist movement, they were part of the feminist movement, they were aggressive in opposing segregation and Jim Crow, but before the New Deal, Progressivism was also explicitly Christian. The official theme song of the Progressive (Bull Moose) party that Theodore Roosevelt ran on in 1912 was 'Onward Christian Soldiers', and during his speech accepting the Progressive party's nomination for president Roosevelt declared 'we stand at Armageddon and we battle for the Lord'.

Before the New Deal, Progressivism was also a movement for moral reform, which is why many progressives were also prohibitionists, and they opposed gambling, prostitution etc. And let's not forget that the early civil rights movement in the 1950's was explicitly Christian, and most of the push for civil rights started in the churches. And let's not forget Martin Luther King and many other civil rights leaders of the time were ministers.

What changed with the New Deal is that Progressivism lost its Christian moorings and became secular and focused solely on political reforms with no interest in moral reforms. And in the 1960's, Progressivism became not just non-Christian, but anti-Christian, and this is what led to the changes within not just the Methodist church, but within mainline Protestant denominations altogether.


Methodism always supported Progressivism, always, ever since the Wesley's, but when Progressivism changed, so did the Methodism. Mainline Protestant denominations had been pushing the 'social gospel' since the 1880's, but in the 1960's, when the nature of the social gospel changed, so did the denominations.


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 Post subject: Re: Conservative Methodists?
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Martin Luther King was a Baptist minister, as were Ralph David Abernathy and Jesse Jackson. :fyi:

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 Post subject: Re: Conservative Methodists?
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Mrs. Timmy wrote:
They're kind of an odd bunch in that they believe Grace is both imparted AND imputed.


Nathan wrote:
That response is also applicable for Anglicans and (in comparison to some) Catholics as well.
Yes, and St. Paul.


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 Post subject: Re: Conservative Methodists?
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Nathan wrote:
They're kind of an odd bunch in that they believe Grace is both imparted AND imputed.


Mrs. Timmy wrote:
That response is also applicable for Anglicans and (in comparison to some) Catholics as well.
Yes, and St. Paul.

FTFY :wave

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 Post subject: Re: Conservative Methodists?
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GKC wrote:
Mrs. Timmy wrote:
Nathan wrote:
Mrs. Timmy wrote:
Nathan wrote:
Are they still around? I imagine I would like to meet a more orthodox Christian that comes from a strong Weslyian tradition. Perhaps most have left for other denominations...or became Catholic:) (or Eastern Orthodox).

How do you do, Nathan? :wave I'm Mrs. Timmy: former Methodist who left when it took that hard left turn in the 70's.

See, you've known one for years, and didn't even realize it! :mrgreen:


Ah, I was wondering if there were any that were still Methodists.

They're kind of an odd bunch in that they believe Grace is both imparted AND imputed.

Btw, I think Obi answered my question.


That response is also applicable for Anglicans and (in comparison to some) Catholics as well.


I have never been to Africa.

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 Post subject: Re: Conservative Methodists?
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It isn't just Methodists, all of the old mainline Protestant denominations are fairly liberal.


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