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Author:  pax [ Sat May 21, 2011 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

Only fair that you have the opening salvo.

Author:  haparker321 [ Sat May 21, 2011 8:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

pax wrote:
Only fair that you have the opening salvo.

Is this an open debate here on the concept of Sola Scriptura? What are the rules?

Parker

Author:  Signum Crucis [ Sat May 21, 2011 9:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

The only rule I'm going to impose is that this remain between pax and Parker. They can decide on the rules of engagement.

Author:  haparker321 [ Sat May 21, 2011 9:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

Signum Crucis wrote:
The only rule I'm going to impose is that this remain between pax and Parker. They can decide on the rules of engagement.

Good choice!

Parker

Author:  Signum Crucis [ Sat May 21, 2011 9:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

haparker321 wrote:
Signum Crucis wrote:
The only rule I'm going to impose is that this remain between pax and Parker. They can decide on the rules of engagement.

Good choice!

Parker


Why, thank you for honoring me with your validation!

Author:  pax [ Sat May 21, 2011 10:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

haparker321 wrote:
pax wrote:
Only fair that you have the opening salvo.

Is this an open debate here on the concept of Sola Scriptura? What are the rules?

Parker


The only rules I insist upon is no cut'n'paste without a link or a footnote, and no adding or subtracting from Scripture with opinions. Neither of us are Greek or Hebrew scholars, so citing a concordance and pretending we know what it means is disingenuous. Let us approach each other with respect and humility in the knowledge of our own limitations.

I use the Douay-Rheims online transaltion found here: http://www.drbo.org/

And remember that we are at the mercy of our translators.

Author:  haparker321 [ Sat May 21, 2011 10:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

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The only rules I insist upon is no cut'n'paste without a link or a footnote

May I, with permission, use the definition I previously posted on another thread?

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and no adding or subtracting from Scripture with opinions.

What do you mean?

Quote:
Let us approach each other with respect and humility in the knowledge of our own limitations.

Agreed, I don't recall debating anything with you personally.

Quote:
I use the Douay-Rheims online transaltion found here: http://www.drbo.org/


I use the ESV.

Parker

Author:  pax [ Sat May 21, 2011 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

haparker321 wrote:
Quote:
The only rules I insist upon is no cut'n'paste without a link or a footnote

May I, with permission, use the definition I previously posted on another thread?

Quote:
and no adding or subtracting from Scripture with opinions.

What do you mean?

Quote:
Let us approach each other with respect and humility in the knowledge of our own limitations.

Agreed, I don't recall debating anything with you personally.

Quote:
I use the Douay-Rheims online transaltion found here: http://www.drbo.org/


I use the ESV.

Parker


Of course ou may quote yourself. If it is not your words, then supply a footnote to who the author is.

What do I mean by no opinions? I believe the Holy Scriptures are capable of speaking for themselves without our opinions clogging the literal meaning of the Text. If you wish to offer an interpretation that is fine, but the literal meaning of the Text is always the primary meaning God wanted to convey. I believe that is a necessary default position. Otherwise, it is just your interpretation against mine, and both have equal weight, which is zero.

Whether or not we have debated before is moot. All that matters is we show respect and humility and acknowledge our own limitations.

Author:  Signum Crucis [ Sat May 21, 2011 10:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

Parker, I think what he means primarily by opinion is your propensity to insert things into scripture such as: "Jesus meant for them to write down what he taught them." That isn't your interpretation of any passage, it is you inserting something that isn't there or anywhere else in scripture. An interpretation can be supported in some way (even if it's a faulty interpretation), an opinion cannot.

Author:  pax [ Sun May 22, 2011 9:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

Where'd he go?

Author:  Signum Crucis [ Sun May 22, 2011 9:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

He'll be back.

Author:  pax [ Sun May 22, 2011 9:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

Signum Crucis wrote:
He'll be back.


Did you scare him off with the Viking Kittehs?

Author:  Signum Crucis [ Sun May 22, 2011 9:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

Funny you should mention that. I was thinking today that it's time to bring the Viking Kitty avatar back.

Author:  pax [ Mon May 23, 2011 11:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

Parker has gone off to summer camp to be a teacher there. The debate is on hold for a month or two.

Author:  Signum Crucis [ Mon May 23, 2011 2:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

Mid-August, I believe.

Author:  RolandJS [ Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:48 am ]
Post subject:  is Parker seeking teaching certification?

If so, true, that process is very expensive and can be exhausting, from what other teachers have told me.
As a substitute teacher, I get asked sometimes why don't I get certified.
$5000 is a good round figure.
Roland

Author:  Signum Crucis [ Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Parker -- You and Me and Sola Scriptura

Roland, it's summer camp. :)

Author:  RolandJS [ Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Siggy, I miss-read! Sorry :)

I was skimming much too fast, sorry for miss-reading that! I'm outa this thread. -- roland

Author:  haparker321 [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:37 pm ]
Post subject:  I have returned....

Sorry about the late delay, but I got another question to ask prior to engaging this formal debate: what exactly is the key question you are looking for?

Parker

Author:  pax [ Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I have returned....

haparker321 wrote:
Sorry about the late delay, but I got another question to ask prior to engaging this formal debate: what exactly is the key question you are looking for?

Parker


Well, the first thing you could do for me would be to prove from Scripture Alone that Matthew wrote the Gospel of Matthew.

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