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I just want to clear this up;

1. Agape, Caritas and Charity all refer to the same kind of love (that being to wish the good of another), right?

2. Diligo, diligere means to love with Caritas correct?

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1) Be careful with strict equivalences between languages. I would not propose that as a general rule.
2) Actually it more means to choose than it means anything else.

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 Post subject: Re: What is Love?
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I'd suggest you read the encyclical God IS LOVE by Pope Benedict XVI. He explains the language of love there.

Deus Caritas Est

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 Post subject: Re: What is Love?
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1) Be careful with strict equivalences between languages. I would not propose that as a general rule.
2) Actually it more means to choose than it means anything else.


As to 1) true, however certainly when a Catholic says "Deus Caritas est" and an Orthodox says "Θεὸς ἀγάπη ἐστίν," we're talking about the same thing right?

2) Is there a verb form of Caritas?

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ForeverFaithful wrote:
Is there a verb form of Caritas?


The closest verb form is "carum habere," a phrase used by Cicero. Caritas is derived from an adjective carus, meaning "dear".

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While I don't have Latin concordance of the Bible, so far I found two words for "to love". They are "amare" and "diligere".

St. Matthew in his Gospel mentions "diligere":

22:37 Diliges Dominum Deum tuum in toto corde tuo et in tota anima tua et in tota mente tua.

22:38 Diliges proximum tuum sicut teipsum.

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 Post subject: Re: What is Love?
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ForeverFaithful wrote:
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I just want to clear this up;

1. Agape, Caritas and Charity all refer to the same kind of love (that being to wish the good of another), right?

2. Diligo, diligere means to love with Caritas correct?


While strict equivalence is not always upheld, and heck agape, philio, etc are used interchangeably too, as much as is made out of their strict difference by some that is just as often not the case

But Diligere is often used for the act of charity, which make sense since it implies an act of the will. When God calls Christ His beloved son, the word is dilectus.

And in John 21, where Christ asks Peter "lovest thou me?" there question is phrased, the first two times in the vulgate as "Diligis me" and Peter responds "tu scis quia amo te" So Jerome used diligere as the verbal form of agape, and amo for philio, but don't make too much out of that. If one wants strict distinction, that would be the choice there, but don't assume that an autho meant such a strict distinction absent supporting context (even in John 21, the modern interpretation of a major important distinction is not very widely shared by the Fathers, to say the least, including native Greek speakers)

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