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Author:  Dionysius [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Translation help

Ok just need some real quick easy translations from English to Latin (how would you say these saints in Latin)...

1. Padre Pio

2. Saint Therese

3. Saint John of the Cross

4. Saint Pius X

5. Saint Francis

6. Saint Thomas

Author:  lbt [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Translation help

Sanctus Pius de Pietrelcina

Sancta Teresia a Iesu Infante

Sanctus Ioannes a Cruce

Sanctus Pius X

Sanctus Franciscus Assisiensis

Sanctus Thomas

Author:  Obi-Wan Kenobi [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Translation help

Sanctus Pius [I'm not sure what to do with the X, since I can't find it spelled out anywhere; the Latin ordinal for "tenth" is "decimus"]

Author:  Obi-Wan Kenobi [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Translation help

Please note that all of the above are in the nominative. If you're addressing them, compare this: http://breviary.net/misc/litanysaints.htm

Author:  Dionysius [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Translation help

Yes, I was wanting the translation to refer to addressing them...

So, for the women, it is "Sancta"?

For the men, it is "Sancte"?

Does the above mentioned specific names of each saint translated by ibt remain the same or change if you are addressing them?

Author:  Obi-Wan Kenobi [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Translation help

The names of the women don't change. The names of the men do.

Author:  Dionysius [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Translation help

Ok, sorry, lets back up

1.) Addressing the man who is a saint you say, "Sancte"?

2. Addressing the woman saint, you say, "Sancta"?

3.) Could you translate the men names for me, if I was to address them?

Author:  Obi-Wan Kenobi [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Translation help

Look at the link. :)

Author:  Dionysius [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Translation help

Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Look at the link. :)


You mean........You want me to THINK! :scratch:

jk OK, here goes nothing.

Author:  Pro Ecclesia Dei [ Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Translation help

Sanctus Thoma is also acceptable. In any case, Thoma/Thomas is treated as if it were Thoma is its declensions. So

Sanctus Thomas/Thoma (subject)
Sancti Thomæ (genitive, "of St. Thomas" or "St. Thomas')
Sancto Thomæ (dative, to or for St. Thomas)
Sanctum Thomam (accusative_
Sancto Thoma (ablative, by St. Thomas)
Sancte Thoma (vocative, address)

But take a femine saint

Sancta Maria (sub)
Sanctæ Mariæ (gen)
Sanctæ Mariæ (dat)
Sanctam Mariam (acc)
Sancta Maria (abl)
Sancta Maria (voc)

Generally the vocative is the same as the nominative, except 2nd declensions. That is, generally, nouns that end with -us. So Sanctus becomes sancte, but sancta (1st declension) remains. Generally -a nouns are feminine and -us masculine. However, Thoma is a 1st declension but is a male name, hence why sanctus and not sancta modifies it.

Author:  lbt [ Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Translation help

Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Sanctus Pius [I'm not sure what to do with the X, since I can't find it spelled out anywhere; the Latin ordinal for "tenth" is "decimus"]


Yes, it's Sanctus Pius Decimus. You could find some documents indicating this phrase on the internet.

Author:  Peregrinator [ Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:58 pm ]
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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Sanctus Pius [I'm not sure what to do with the X, since I can't find it spelled out anywhere; the Latin ordinal for "tenth" is "decimus"]

I think one would use "decimus." At least, I have heard/read "Sancte Pie Decime, ora pro nobis."

Author:  Closet Catholic [ Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:08 pm ]
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PDUBYA wrote:
Ok just need some real quick easy translations from English to Latin (how would you say these saints in Latin)...

1. Padre Pio
English? :lolsign :poke :mrgreen:

Author:  Pro Ecclesia Dei [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Translation help

Closet Catholic wrote:
PDUBYA wrote:
Ok just need some real quick easy translations from English to Latin (how would you say these saints in Latin)...

1. Padre Pio
English? :lolsign :poke :mrgreen:

Padre is English...

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/padre

It isn't that uncommon to simply call a priest padre, especially by military men.

It just has a narrower meaning than Spanish Padre.

Author:  lbt [ Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Translation help

Closet Catholic wrote:
PDUBYA wrote:
Ok just need some real quick easy translations from English to Latin (how would you say these saints in Latin)...

1. Padre Pio
English?


The word "Padre" does appear in my English-Norwegian dictionary:

padre – prest (i hær el. flåte).

Here, the abbreviaion el. means "eller" (Norwegian for "or"). So, we have "priest (in army or navy)".

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