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I personally think that priests and deacons would do well to make it a point not to just mention these things and then let them go.

Of course, that only works if the priests and deacons are completely faithful to Church teaching. If they pick and choose, the laity are going to feel free to pick and choose, too.

Also, pastoral committee members need to be examples, not obstacles. That's a big problem in my parish.

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so do you think it is apathy , disobedience, or forgetfulness?


In my parish, no one bows (except for my family and a handful of others) at the Incarnation, nor before receiving Communion. It's been announced almost monthly by our deacon the bows are required, so I'm guessing it's both apathy and disobedience.

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I'm not surprised, considering I'm in a parish that places great value on HHS music, especially the Mass of Creation :roll:

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is there some other alternative... cuz we sure don't know it :roll:

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Greetings,

You said: I wish that would happen here, as it is now very few make any sign during the Incarnation.

Response: I only wish that people would know what I was talking about when I said the word 'Incarnation'. They are thinking of some instant breakfast drink.

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You said: I wish that would happen here, as it is now very few make any sign during the Incarnation.

Response: I only wish that people would know what I was talking about when I said the word 'Incarnation'. They are thinking of some instant breakfast drink.

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I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that one.....maybe you can work the meaning into an upcoming homily father :)


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TP wrote:
Greetings,

You said: I wish that would happen here, as it is now very few make any sign during the Incarnation.

Response: I only wish that people would know what I was talking about when I said the word 'Incarnation'. They are thinking of some instant breakfast drink.

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Father, I'm with SV, as I don't know whether to laugh or cry. It's the result of poor catechesis, which will continue until we have orthodox CCD teachers as well as DRE's. My parish is churning out hundreds of cafeteria Catholics every year, because of our DRE :(

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Greetings,

I try to explain the word on a regular basis, but it seems to go shoooooom, right over their heads. Until it becomes meaningful, they won't remember it. I am also teaching the Angelus to many different people because the incarnation is at the center of this prayer as well.

We have about 25%(on a good day) to bow for the incarnation line. Even if I announce it immediately before the prayer we will only get half of the people doing it. People just outright IGNORE. They don't sing, they don't respond, they don't bow. Sometime I wonder why they are even there.

I love HOLY DAYS of obligation because the only people who are there are the people who really want to be there. The Church is very prayerful before, during and after mass on holy days with people responding and praying and not complaining about silence. Holy Days are great. To bad we keep moving them to sundays.

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I agree...the Holy Days need to remain separate from Sunday.


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