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 Post subject: Holy Saturday Alleluia
PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:23 am 
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The priest is supposed to intone the Alleluia three times, a little louder for each time. Apprently, if necessary, the cantor may intone the Alleluia.

So, how "necessary" does "necessary" mean, and by "cantor" may one read "choir or two or three" rather than one official cantor?

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Saturday Alleluia
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There is an arrangement I'm thinking might work if we get the chance to practice it where the priest would intone and we would answer with the arrangement with two voices if the notes for that allow for raising it a bit every time. I can't remember. Last year the priest intoned in the manner described first, and I think we then launched into the arrangement afterwards as it went with the responsorial psalm and it all ended up being a bit improvised for one reason and another. It wasn't a resounding success, though I would prefer to go by the rules than have it sound nicer but depart from the straight and narrow of the rubrics.

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Saturday Alleluia
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The problem with being able to get both (the closest we can get to the ideal both in terms of who should intone and in terms of the arrangement) is time and opportunity to prepare and practice, but I think I will try to get it done.

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Saturday Alleluia
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Oh, hang on, the instructions in the material I am consulting from the liturgical calendar there appears not to use the word for
a formal or some kind of instituted cantor there.

Well, at least it appears that the cantor who, if necessary, may intone the Alleluia, does not need to be some formal cantor.

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I have got to make arrangements not to be here next Holy Week!!!!

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I blame the cat.


The cat doesn't enter into it!

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Saturday Alleluia
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I blame the cat.


The cat doesn't enter into it!


Father didn’t say the cat was at fault, merely that he was blaming it. :fyi:

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Saturday Alleluia
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I blame the cat.


The cat doesn't enter into it!


Father didn’t say the cat was at fault, merely that he was blaming it. :fyi:


She still doesn't enter into it. In fact, I wouldn't even let her enter into the church.

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Saturday Alleluia
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So...how "necessary" does "necessary" mean?

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Norwegianblue wrote:
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I blame the cat.


The cat doesn't enter into it!


Father didn’t say the cat was at fault, merely that he was blaming it. :fyi:


She still doesn't enter into it. In fact, I wouldn't even let her enter into the church.

Not even for a St. Francis Day blessing? :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Saturday Alleluia
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So...how "necessary" does "necessary" mean?

You aren't the liturgy police. Srsly.

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Saturday Alleluia
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So...how "necessary" does "necessary" mean?

You aren't the liturgy police. Srsly.

Or even the liturgy police police. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Saturday Alleluia
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Banned for being the liturgy police police police police.


Uh guys... the pub is leaking.

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Banned for being the liturgy police police police police.


Uh guys... the pub is leaking.
The banning thread is thataway--------->

FTFY :fyi:

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 Post subject: Re: Holy Saturday Alleluia
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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
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So...how "necessary" does "necessary" mean?

You aren't the liturgy police. Srsly.


No, but I AM doing the singing and the programme for the singing! And I'd rather not make a suggestion that offends against the norms. :fyi:

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