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 Post subject: Solemnity of St. Olav
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:44 pm 
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The solemnity of St. Olav, the patron saint of Norway, seems to take liturgical precedence over the Sunday here. I was a bit surprised at that. Is this normal?

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 Post subject: Re: Solemnity of St. Olav
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Per a Facebook discussion recently with a priest, I learned that yes, solemnities of saints do take precedence over Sundays in Ordinary Time. We see this for the Universal Church for the solemnities of Our Lady's Assumption, or of All Saints -- whenever those fall on Sunday, they are celebrated in place of the Sunday in Ordinary Time. This also happened a few weeks ago with the Solemnity of the Nativity of Saint John the Baptist.

The particular discussion with this priest was regarding the patronal feast of his parish. Apparently a patronal feast of a parish is a solemnity for that parish, and if it occurs during Ordinary Time, it can be transferred to the nearest Sunday.

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 Post subject: Re: Solemnity of St. Olav
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This year the feast actually falls on a Sunday (July 29). I don't know if that is important.

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 Post subject: Re: Solemnity of St. Olav
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Yes. A country's patron saint's feast day (if not already a solemnity) is celebrated as a solemnity in that country. Solemnities take precedence over Sundays in Ordinary Time.

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 Post subject: Re: Solemnity of St. Olav
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Liturgical precedence was set up by Congregation for Divine Worship in February 1969:

https://www.ewtn.com/library/CURIA/CDWLITYR.HTM

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 Post subject: Re: Solemnity of St. Olav
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Closet Catholic wrote:
This year the feast actually falls on a Sunday (July 29). I don't know if that is important.


Oh, I know. I'm delighted to be able to celebrate "Olsok" still. There are some nice hymns, and we will try to get the sequence learnt in time with a possibly somewhat adapted version of the neumes (it may be identical) and Norwegian text. The sequence is optional, but it would be nice to chant it.

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 Post subject: Re: Solemnity of St. Olav
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It's beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nJVP3cV5Kg

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 Post subject: Re: Solemnity of St. Olav
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The liturgical calendar online gives two translations, one abbreviated. This is also the one set to a chant tune (though in regular notes, which makes it harder to read for chant, I think). Though abbreviated, the chant that is kept and transposed to regular notes seems to be the same barring, as far as I can see, the ending of two lines. It's a pity it's abbreviated, and I have no idea how good the translation is, but both are apparently approved for use as the sequence as they appear in the liturgical resource (calendar) for the readings on the website of the Catholic Church in Norway. I guess the fact that it's abbreviated and the most difficult high parts are not in there makes it a lot more doable to get decent in time! But I'd prefer it to be complete.

ETA: Might double check that it's approved for use.

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 Post subject: Re: Solemnity of St. Olav
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Not to be this year as we need more time. Must remember to get it rehearsed in time for next year! Presuming it can be used, that is.

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 Post subject: Re: Solemnity of St. Olav
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Before entrance tomorrow the main celebrant will sing the first verse of Lux Illuxit in Latin before I, who will be concelebrating with him, will sing the same verse in Norwegian, unfortunately in a sort of loose translation, and interestingly with another tune which is also from the Olaf liturgy, Rex Olavus, called Predicasti Dei care. Here is a link to that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTGtj6Ansck

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