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 Post subject: Feasts in February after the 23rd in leap years
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Leap day used to be a repeat of 2/24. The Wikipedia article on the Gregorian calendar says this:

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In the Julian calendar, the leap day was inserted by doubling 24 February, and the Gregorian reform did not change the date of the leap day. In the modern period, it has become customary to number the days from the beginning of the month, and 29 February is typically considered as the leap day. Some churches, notably the Roman Catholic Church, delay February festivals after the 23rd by one day in leap years.

I know the last sentence is not correct with respect to the Ordinary Form calendar. I've never heard of it with respect to the EF calendar, but before I go edit Wikipedia, I am hoping that someone who knows more on the topic can tell me whether or not it's true for the EF, and if it isn't now, if it ever was.

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 Post subject: Re: Feasts in February after the 23rd in leap years
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I don't believe it is true now; the dates on the sanctoral cycle appear to be fixed. But I could be quite wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Feasts in February after the 23rd in leap years
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I know it's not true now, and I couldn't find anything in a translation of the 1962 rubrics. I was able to see a snippet of the source on Google Books, and it said that the dominical letter used to be advanced on the 23rd and that the feast of St. Matthias was therefore moved in leap years. I know what the dominical letter is, but I don't know what it has to do with feast days other than Easter. I'm tracking down a full copy of the source.

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 Post subject: Re: Feasts in February after the 23rd in leap years
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The book is copyright 1998. I cannot fathom an author being so clueless as to make this mistake in his chosen field, nor Oxford University Press not having an editor who would ask about it.


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 Post subject: Re: Feasts in February after the 23rd in leap years
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Hmmm well here you go:

https://media.musicasacra.com/sjfm/Sain ... tthias.pdf

And apparently it has to do with how the calends were calculated in the Roman calendar. The feast of St. Matthias is celebrated on the sixth of the calends of March, that is, four days before the end of February (or six days until the first of March, inclusive), hence February 25 in leap years but February 24 in all other years.

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 Post subject: Re: Feasts in February after the 23rd in leap years
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I know it's not true now

By "true now" I meant "true now according to the 1962 Calendar"; I know it's not true in the Ordinary Form.

And I just checked 2016 and 2017 liturgical Calendars and sure enough, St. Matthias is celebrated on 25 February in the former but 24 February in the latter. The only other feast that appears to be affected by this rule is that of St. Gabriel Possenti (27 February but 28 February in a leap year, i.e. the third of the calends of March).

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 Post subject: Re: Feasts in February after the 23rd in leap years
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Thank you. So the author is kinda-sorta-out of date.

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Edit accomplished.

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The book is copyright 1998. I cannot fathom an author being so clueless as to make this mistake in his chosen field, nor Oxford University Press not having an editor who would ask about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Feasts in February after the 23rd in leap years
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He didn't make it up out of whole cloth. He was just 30 years out of date.

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 Post subject: Re: Feasts in February after the 23rd in leap years
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It is that way in the Extraordinary Form calendar. My breviary lists St. Matthias as February 24th or February 25th in a leap year (as an example). I was kind of curious as to why that is, but the OP clears that up. :)

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Gee, I thought maybe this was a semi-clandestine planning session for my birthday celebration.

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