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The usefulness of a Eucharistic Compendium

93. At the conclusion of these reflections, in which I have taken up a number of themes raised at the Synod, I also wish to accept the proposal which the Synod Fathers advanced as a means of helping the Christian people to believe, celebrate and live ever more fully the mystery of the Eucharist. The competent offices of the Roman Curia will publish a Compendium which will assemble texts from the Catechism of the Catholic Church, prayers, explanations of the Eucharistic Prayers of the Roman Missal and other useful aids for a correct understanding, celebration and adoration of the Sacrament of the Altar (251). It is my hope that this book will help make the memorial of the Passover of the Lord increasingly the source and summit of the Church's life and mission. This will encourage each member of the faithful to make his or her life a true act of spiritual worship.

Pope Benedict, Sacramentum Caritatis



Has it been prepared yet?

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Apparently no one has heard a thing about it. It must be being handled by the same committee that's supposed to give the final word on De Auxiliis.

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Apparently no one has heard a thing about it. It must be being handled by the same committee that's supposed to give the final word on De Auxiliis.



I have never heard about that, but I looked it up. Interesting situation, basically the same thing happened in both cases, a Pope dies or resigns and a new Pope is elected who has different priorities and feels no need to continue work on a project left over from the previous Pope. I imagine that happens a lot in history.

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 Post subject: Re: Eucharistic Compendium
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I think with De Auxiliis the idea was more to assign a committee to produce a final report and tell them never to meet so that the whole thing would die away than it was a change in priorities.

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What is de auxilis?

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 Post subject: Re: Eucharistic Compendium
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http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04238a.htm

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The pope's decree communicated (5 September, 1607) to both Dominicans and Jesuits, allowed each party to defend its own doctrine, enjoined each from censoring or condemning the opposite opinion, and commanded them to await, as loyal sons of the Church, the final decision of the Apostolic See. That decision, however, has not been reached [when the article was written, ca. 1908, and it hasn't in the century since either; I'm not holding my breath)]

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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
I think with De Auxiliis the idea was more to assign a committee to produce a final report and tell them never to meet so that the whole thing would die away than it was a change in priorities.


Maybe, but the fact that shortly after the Pope made that decree, he died and a new Pope was elected doesn't seem like a coincidence.

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Basically the same thing happened in both cases, a Pope dies or resigns and a new Pope is elected who has different priorities and feels no need to continue work on a project left over from the previous Pope. I imagine that happens a lot in history.

Weren't there six years to make the Compendium?

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Doom wrote:
Basically the same thing happened in both cases, a Pope dies or resigns and a new Pope is elected who has different priorities and feels no need to continue work on a project left over from the previous Pope. I imagine that happens a lot in history.

Weren't there six years to make the Compendium?


Such an enterprise would likely take at least 20 years, and there is no evidence that the Pope did anything on the issue other than making the one statement you cited. If it was something he was really, deeply interested in, he would have, you know, done something other than talk about it.

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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
I think with De Auxiliis the idea was more to assign a committee to produce a final report and tell them never to meet so that the whole thing would die away than it was a change in priorities.


Maybe, but the fact that shortly after the Pope made that decree, he died and a new Pope was elected doesn't seem like a coincidence.

Well the Congregatio de Auxiliis was formed before that, by Clement.It continued under 2 more popes, with Paul V holding 17 debates on it! A total of 85 conferences were held with the pope attending.

After the decree of 1607 that dissolved the Congregatio, another was issued in 1611. It forbade any book on the subject... around the 18th century the Dominicans and Jesuits stopped waiting for the final decision, and started publishing again, though the decree was never actually revoked.

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The Eucharistic Compendium is available in Latin from Vatican.

http://isbnplus.com/9788820982911

I hear you will have to pay 27 euros for this book printed in October 19, 2009.

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Well there you go. So they beat the DA committee to the finish line.

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It doesn't look like it was ever translated into English.

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Are you aware of it saying anything new or special?

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This is from a Zenit article in 2009:

https://zenit.org/articles/compendium-e ... d-to-pope/

They say volume 1 is available in Italian?

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Jack3 wrote:
Are you aware of it saying anything new or special?

It's a compendium, which means by design it isn't supposed to say anything new.

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Fr. Z. had a report of its contents:

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2009/10/details- ... aristicum/

Now one thing the Vatican does not lack is translators so I imagine that there was a shift in priorities at some point and thus, it remains untranslated. I imagine that most of the texts included in the Compendium have already been translated though.

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Although I wish they had better translators for the Holy Father. It's obvious that some of the translators are done by people who aren't idiomatic English speakers--e.g., use of "confess themselves" rather than "go to confession."

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Fr. Z's blog says that the Compendium has "a commentary on the Four Eucharist prayers". Was that originally composed?

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