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Separation of men and women in the church
It is practiced, I do not like it. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
It is practiced, I like it. 15%  15%  [ 2 ]
It is not practiced, I do not like it. 62%  62%  [ 8 ]
It is not practiced, I like it. 23%  23%  [ 3 ]
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In your parish, diocese, is the custom of men sitting on one side of the nave and women on the other, practiced? Do you like it?

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Is this poll..... dead?

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You did not post all possible alternatives. Maybe some have it or do not have it, and are indifferent to it.

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It is the traditional practice of the Syro Malabar Church. The Latin Church in Kerala practices it too. See a link to a picture below. As is obvious from the vestments, Church architecture and sanctuary veil, it is a Syro Malabar Church.

Very young children would stay with their parents. Older children stand in the front of the Haikala, which Latins call Nave.

Yes, in this system, husbands and wives will be standing in opposite sides.

Personally, I like it.

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Closet Catholic wrote:
You did not post all possible alternatives. Maybe some have it or do not have it, and are indifferent to it.

Also the Texas option is missing.

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It is the traditional practice of the Latin Church as well, but hasn't been practiced in English-speaking countries for some time. I'm actually surprised to find out that it is practiced among Latin Catholics in India, but I assume that it is either a custom that's endured or an enculturation due to proximity with the Syro-Malabar Church.

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Closet Catholic wrote:
You did not post all possible alternatives. Maybe some have it or do not have it, and are indifferent to it.

Sorry. Those indifferent may abstain from voting the preference, voting for the presence of the practice only.

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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Closet Catholic wrote:
You did not post all possible alternatives. Maybe some have it or do not have it, and are indifferent to it.

Also the Texas option is missing.

I purposely did that. In the Spirit of Vatican II, we should rid ourselves of unnecessary stuff. I do not like the Texas rule. Furthermore, I am Eastern Catholic, so Latin rules don't bind me.

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Bagheera wrote:
It is the traditional practice of the Latin Church as well, but hasn't been practiced in English-speaking countries for some time. I'm actually surprised to find out thatsiit I practce among Latin Catholics in India, but I assume that it is either a custom that's endured or an enculturation due to proximity with the Syro-Malabar Church.

I have went once to Latin Mass in Goa, India. Men and women were mixed there. It seems that the Latin Church does not practice it outside Kerala.

It is not an endured practice or incultration, the Latin Church in Kerala uses our way of the sign of peace, some of our hymns, etc. We seem to be very influential and reputed wherever we have proper territory.

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Here we don't separate men from women.

In most cases, each family pray together in the church. Sometimes, mums with crying babes go to the back of the church or in a separate room.

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In the Spirit of Vatican II, we should rid ourselves of unnecessary stuff.

Texas is necessary. :fyi:

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Jack3 wrote:
Closet Catholic wrote:
You did not post all possible alternatives. Maybe some have it or do not have it, and are indifferent to it.

Sorry. Those indifferent may abstain from voting the preference, voting for the presence of the practice only.
And what alternative might that be in the poll?

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As bagheera notes, such separation is traditional. Men on the Gospel side, women on the Epistle.

Only time that is observed now is in its reverse, at a traditional wedding. For reasons, the woman stands on the Gospel side, and the man on the Epistle.

The 1917 CIC only recommended the practice be retained.

England, and consequently America, had a contrary custom, going back before the Tudors of "family pews"

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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
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In the Spirit of Vatican II, we should rid ourselves of unnecessary stuff.

Texas is necessary. :fyi:

It prevents posters from voting a valid option.

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Jack3 wrote:
Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Jack3 wrote:
In the Spirit of Vatican II, we should rid ourselves of unnecessary stuff.

Texas is necessary. :fyi:

It prevents posters from voting a valid option.

Texas is always valid!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :soap: :fyi:

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Thomas Waleys wrote:
As bagheera notes, such separation is traditional. Men on the Gospel side, women on the Epistle.

The same sides for the Syro Malabar. Only, we call the Gospel side the Old Testament side.

The general consensus in this thread is that separation is a traditional practice that has been abandoned in UK and USA. Am I correct? How are things in Brazil, France, Philippines, etc?

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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Jack3 wrote:
Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Jack3 wrote:
In the Spirit of Vatican II, we should rid ourselves of unnecessary stuff.

Texas is necessary. :fyi:

It prevents posters from voting a valid option.

Texas is always valid!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :soap: :fyi:

Texas is a part of the violence inherent in the system because it is contrary to the inherent dignity of the message board.

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Jack3 wrote:
Thomas Waleys wrote:
As bagheera notes, such separation is traditional. Men on the Gospel side, women on the Epistle.

The same sides for the Syro Malabar. Only, we call the Gospel side the Old Testament side.

The general consensus in this thread is that separation is a traditional practice that has been abandoned in UK and USA. Am I correct? How are things in Brazil, France, Philippines, etc?

It was never practice in the US, at least not on the east coast, which inherited English praxis from the beginning. It hasn't been practiced since the 14th century in England

I can't speak for every county. I know it was only still common in more countryside areas in most European countries in the early 20th century.. so you might have seen it at Ars, but probably not Paris.

You can google images of Mass in different places. That might give an indication

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