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 Post subject: Manushya nee mannakunnu- SyroMalabar Ash Monday Hymn
PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:26 am 
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Manushyaa nee mannaakunnu
mannilekku madangum noonam
anuthaapakkannuneer veezhthi
paapa parihaaram cheythu kolka nee (manushyaa..)

falam nalkaathuyarnnu nilkkum
vruksha nirayellaam arinju veezhthum
eritheeyil erinju veezhum
neeri niram maari chaampalaay theerum (manushyaa..)

daivaputhran varum oozhiyil
dhaanyakkalamellaam shuchiyaakkuvaan
nenmanikal sambharikkunnu
ketta pathirellaam chutterikkunnu (manushyaa..)

aayirangal veenu thaazhunnu
marthya maanasangal venthu neerunnu
nithya jeevan nalkidum neerchaal
vittu marubhoovil jalam thedunnu (manushyaa..)

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 Post subject: Re: Manushya nee mannakunnu- SyroMalabar Ash Monday Hymn
PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:37 am 
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English translation

O man, you are dust
And to dust you shall return
Cry with the tears of contrition
And do penance for your sins

The rows of trees that
Don't bear fruit but stand tall
Shall be cut and thrown into fire
They shall burn, change colour and become ashes
(O Man, you are...)

The Son of God will come to the Earth
To clean the farm/granary
Collect the grains
Burns the chaff*
(O Man, you are...)

Thousands fall dead
Human minds burn
Abandons the stream of eternal life
And searches for water in the desert
(O Man, you are...)

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-From the introduction to Our Father, "On the feasts of the Lord and other important feasts", Syro Malabar rite


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 Post subject: Re: Manushya nee mannakunnu- SyroMalabar Ash Monday Hymn
PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:39 am 
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* Actually, pathiru means the husk that grows without grain inside. I do not know the proper English term.

The translation is not literal, as the grammatical structure of the two languages are different.

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 Post subject: Re: Manushya nee mannakunnu- SyroMalabar Ash Monday Hymn
PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:22 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Manushya nee mannakunnu- SyroMalabar Ash Monday Hymn
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This particular forum moves a little slower than the others.

Does your rite (when used in India I suppose) use modern vernacular or some other kind of archaic form of language/liturgical language?

If it's modern vernacular, was it always like that?

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 Post subject: Re: Manushya nee mannakunnu- SyroMalabar Ash Monday Hymn
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Alexandros wrote:
This particular forum moves a little slower than the others.
I see.

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Does your rite (when used in India I suppose) use modern vernacular or some other kind of archaic form of language/liturgical language?

If it's modern vernacular, was it always like that?
Our liturgical language was Syriac. On June 3, The Feast of St. Thomas the Apostle, 1962, The first Malayam celebration took place. The latinisations were removed.

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 Post subject: Re: Manushya nee mannakunnu- SyroMalabar Ash Monday Hymn
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"You are dust, and to dust you shall return" is the common English translation.

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 Post subject: Re: Manushya nee mannakunnu- SyroMalabar Ash Monday Hymn
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In Malayalam, the word for dust connotes the things that fly around in the air (you know, ...dust) so the metrical version says 'soil' Thanks for reading

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 Post subject: Re: Manushya nee mannakunnu- SyroMalabar Ash Monday Hymn
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That's the more common meaning for "dust" in English, too, but the older one has lasted in this context. "Dirt" would be a better choice than "soil," I think.

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 Post subject: Re: Manushya nee mannakunnu- SyroMalabar Ash Monday Hymn
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When I was typing it, I felt that soil has certain connotations in Englosh absent in Malayalam (and I don't have the Syriac original with me but I expect it to mirror the Peshitta)

I shall edit it to 'dust'

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 Post subject: Re: Manushya nee mannakunnu- SyroMalabar Ash Monday Hymn
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"Soil" has positive connotations, at least to my ears. That's why changing to another word (as you are doing) is a good idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Manushya nee mannakunnu- SyroMalabar Ash Monday Hymn
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