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 Post subject: Do we really need microphones?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:53 pm 
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Is it super hard to sing the Gospel in a psalm tone and being heard without a microphone? Does this mean that before the mic was invented people back in the church could not hear the Gospel or the Priest or Deacon preaching?
Some opera singers say they are not trained to speak but only to sing. They find talking with real power hard. I guess a Priest would find singing the homily with power much easiet which it is. My vocal teacher told me he has heard people sing the homily but I did not ask when he heard it. It could have been in a Catholic or Lutheran church.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:56 pm 
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Most places aren't designed for acoustics, sad to say. Talking with power is hard.

In pre-Vatican II days, the Gospel wasn't read for the congregation hear anyhow (though it may have happened sometimes).

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Most places aren't designed for acoustics, sad to say. Talking with power is hard.

In pre-Vatican II days, the Gospel wasn't read for the congregation hear anyhow (though it may have happened sometimes).

It might be read in vernacular at the pulpit before the sermon.

Anyway, older churches probably have better acoustics overall - no sound killing carpet, for one.

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 Post subject: Re: Do we really need microphones?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:00 pm 
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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Most places aren't designed for acoustics, sad to say. Talking with power is hard.

In pre-Vatican II days, the Gospel wasn't read for the congregation hear anyhow (though it may have happened sometimes).

So newer churches are build with no good acustics in mind line in the older days?
People actually thought about acoustics in the old days?
Anyway, I think using psalm tones no mic is needed.

Why wasn't it read for the congregation?
Even today if a Priests say the OF alone he does not read it for a congregation.
I guess there are are resons for reading it.


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Without microphones, a speaker would have to speak aloud.

Many churches nowadays have a better sound system with some sound speakers spread throughout the building.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:19 am 
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Without microphones, a speaker would have to speak aloud.

Many churches nowadays have a better sound system with some sound speakers spread throughout the building.

yes but we are too much into technology instead of using the acoustics.
it has had a bad effect on us. Nowadays people sing with microphones instead of using their full potentials as singers.
I dislike micrphones other than for special occassions or for recording stuff.


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Not giving the singer a microphone sounds like a great idea cuz I don't want to hear them anyway

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In my opinion, it is certainly not ideal for singers to use microphones at Mass.

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Norwegianblue wrote:
In my opinion, it is certainly not ideal for singers to use microphones at Mass.

Is it easier to sing without a microphone? Why would that be?
I take singing lessons and never use a microphone at all. Are people who need a mic singers who do not have powerful voices?


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Norwegianblue wrote:
In my opinion, it is certainly not ideal for singers to use microphones at Mass.

Is it easier to sing without a microphone? Why would that be?
I take singing lessons and never use a microphone at all. Are people who need a mic singers who do not have powerful voices?


When I was young I was a professional singer. I had a very powerful voice, however, a skilled singer does not use power for every note (except on an Opera stage perhaps, I was never trained in Operatic singing).

Modern buildings or old buildings with modern fixtures like padded pews, carpet, etc. can be built to very specific acoustic specifications, however, that inculdes the proper sound system.

People on stage at the Met wear mics, people onstage in the best Broadway musicals are mic'ed. Using a microphone does not denote a lesser skill, in fact, learning how to properly sing into a mic is a skill.

Prior to sound systems, buildings were built to enhance sound. The choir would sing from the loft, the floors and pews were not covered in fabric, the building would respond. If you ever have a chance to sing in one of these perfect buildings, you will never forget it. I've been blessed to sing on the stage at the legendary Rhyman, in Eureka Spring's Thorncrown Chapel, in several historic churches and I felt like an angel singing in those places.

I've also experenced the joy of using a high end sound system and it is truly enjoyable.

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 Post subject: Re: Do we really need microphones?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:38 am 
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To add to what kage said, I don't have a strong voice. I sing above the lead female singer in our band, and it's hard to sing loud and sing high at the same time. I've sung in places with bad systems, and places with good ones. Without a decent soundman, though, I may as well not even sing. I haven't sung at the Rhyman, but I have sung with a couple of former Grand Ol Opry regulars, and they always used mics. Performing is very different from voice lessons. Mics are your friend, if you learn how to use them. It beats killing your voice if you don't have the acoustics to back it up.


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