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 Post subject: Since Vatican II
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:58 am 
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My ‘Wineskin burst again”

Yesterday was All Saints day. The ‘choir’ assisted by three guitars and a big bass sang:-

Oh when the Saints go marching in
When the Saints go marching in
O Lord, I want to be in that number
When the Saints go marching in

The elderly lady, at the end of my bench, joined in whole heartedly and her head and shoulders bopped up and down. Just what I imagine it is like a New Orleans night club.
Immediately after H. Communion the choir and ‘band’ was blasting away again.
Thank goodness I was not wearing my hearing aid.

Some 75 years ago I was an altar boy and frequently sang in the choir. (Gregorian chant). There were four boys’ choirs, named after the archangels, and a forty strong man’s choir.
(No woman, no girls ???)

When I came home I decided to list all the things I do not like after Vatican II.
1. The singing with the band. It completely disturbs the atmosphere required for prayer.
2. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
3. . . . . . .
After very careful consideration I could not think of anything else.

Dear Lord:
Lord, give me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can
And the wisdom to know the difference.

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 Post subject: Re: Since Vatican II
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Does your parish have an early morning mass without music?


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No early mass. Our parish has two churches and there is only one Sunday mass in each.

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I am so glad I am not alone.

See:-
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/issues/ ... e-stopped/

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 Post subject: Re: Since Vatican II
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I completely agree with that article. You aren't alone.

I have only ever been to one parish that had good music, not counting Christmas, some of the worst still have good music for Christmas or other holidays.

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 Post subject: Re: Since Vatican II
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Oh, that parish is in downtown Houston if you are nearby.

We should make a list of all parishes that have Gregorian chant.

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 Post subject: Re: Since Vatican II
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Thanks for the support. No, I am not near by. I live in South Africa near Durban.
I have a sister in Johannesburg (a nun) and a sister in New Zealand. Both agree with me.
Seems to me it is world wide.

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 Post subject: Re: Since Vatican II
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Bombadil wrote:
Oh, that parish is in downtown Houston if you are nearby.

I just barely joined, after trolling the site for about 30 minutes. Your comment intrigued me, although I was a bit confused by your meaning. Are you a member of a near-downtown parish with lousy music?

If you want genuine Schola Cantorum, join us at Holy Rosary at the south end of downtown. The music is angelic.

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No I am not in Houston.
As mentioned above I am in South Africa , near Durban.

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 Post subject: Re: Since Vatican II
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My comment was directed toward Bombadil. But it'd be great to meet you, too.

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There is one other long-time member of DCF in the Houston area, but he doesn't get out much other than going to Mass. The whole time i lived in Austin and San Antonio, try as we might, we never could coordinate a get-together. :cry:

I know I'll be going back to Texas for my son's wedding, but since the happy couple haven't set a date yet, I have no idea when that might be. But I'd be coming in via Dallas and/or Austin, not H-town.

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Mrs. Timmy wrote:
The whole time i lived in Austin and San Antonio, try as we might, we never could coordinate a get-together.

Funny you should mention, but I've had the pleasure of meeting a few people from internet forums, one conservative and another related to Charlotte Church (anybody remember her?). After I get settled here, maybe that will happen, too.

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I remember Charlotte Church; hadn't thought of her in ages.

I've had the pleasure of meeting several current and former regulars on DCF, including kage-ar, 1HCaAC, and our very own Signum Crucis. I also have quite a few good friends in r--- l--- whom I met on a "crazy cat lady" forum I frequented over a decade ago. I even met my husband online (on Catholic Match).

Meetups happen every now and again. Usually when someone is heading to a particular area where another member is known to live (or have a particular familiarity), the word will go out - usually in the form of asking for recommendations on accommodations, dining, or a place to attend Mass.

So you're new to Houston, RB? Where did you come from?

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 Post subject: Re: Since Vatican II
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I saw Charlotte Church. She was a marvelous Welsh singer, raised as a Catholic. I even got her signature. Her mother got separated from her father, and so was adopted by Mr. Church.


But I am not fond of her. She got changed, and even Steve Ray declared that she ought to hush up. Here are Steve's thoughts on her:

http://www.catholicconvert.com/blog/200 ... te-church/

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 Post subject: Re: Since Vatican II
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Mrs. Timmy wrote:
So you're new to Houston, RB? Where did you come from?

I'm not new to Houston. I grew up here near Hobby airport. After my beloved and I got married, we moved to Victoria (Texas) and stayed there for 35 years. I began and ended my teaching career there and we raised a family.

We moved back because of a combination of tragic and fortunate circumstances. The large number of Catholic churches enabled me to take my time to choose a parish. Since my wife put me in charge of that, I trod carefully. I wanted one that would be traditional and beautiful.

As for Charlotte Church, she began spinning out of control before her last CD under contract with Sony. She seemed determined to wreck her life. As a consequence, nobody outside of Wales knows who she is today. Sad, because she was immensely talented. In fact, the last concert I ever sat in was in Houston where she sang with the Houston Symphony.

I guess it's time I put some of this on the Introduce Yourself page.

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Bombadil wrote:
Oh, that parish is in downtown Houston if you are nearby.

I just barely joined, after trolling the site for about 30 minutes. Your comment intrigued me, although I was a bit confused by your meaning. Are you a member of a near-downtown parish with lousy music?

If you want genuine Schola Cantorum, join us at Holy Rosary at the south end of downtown. The music is angelic.


i was wondering if Holy Rosary was the parish to which you were referring... i had a feeling it was :wink:

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I know Victoria well; I used to teach in Region XIII ages ago. It's a beautiful town, even if y'all did keep electing that kook Ron Paul. But I digress.

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Mrs. Timmy wrote:
Meetups happen every now and again. Usually when someone is heading to a particular area where another member is known to live (or have a particular familiarity), the word will go out - usually in the form of asking for recommendations on accommodations, dining, or a place to attend Mass.



istm that my number went up to either 15 or 16 after teacher and his dw came through town toward the end of a long vacation ... had we been able to meet, you would have been the first since that time when a group got together at chuy's off of 290

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Mrs. Timmy wrote:
Meetups happen every now and again. Usually when someone is heading to a particular area where another member is known to live (or have a particular familiarity), the word will go out - usually in the form of asking for recommendations on accommodations, dining, or a place to attend Mass.


istm that my number went up to either 15 or 16 after teacher and his dw came through town toward the end of a long vacation ... had we been able to meet, you would have been the first since that time when a group got together at chuy's off of 290


Did you and Zoom ever get together for that steak dinner at Taste of Texas?

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nope, but we did get together for mexican food at molina's off of westheimer... don't recall if that was before or after our should have been meet up at taste of texas ... and thanks for reminding me... zoom was the last dcfer i met... my mil died the day we were to meet at taste of texas ... it was in the middle of a monsoon anyway...and i-10 has a nasty habit of flooding in that area with that kind of rain

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