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Author:  Athanasius [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Rock

As much as I've tried to resist and as much as I don't like the drug associations with it there is much of rock that I do enjoy. I've always had a grudging appreciation for the Beattles who performed some of the best songs of the 60's and 70's. Jimmie Hendricks and that screamer from Texas still evoke fond memories. Heck, I even liked Bob Dylan. Pray for me. While you are at it did you like "Hey Jude", "Lucy in the Sky", "Purple Haze" and such? Are these just sinful tastes that hang on despite our best efforts or are they of some value for heaven?

Don't misunderstand, Jazz and classical still get top billing but every so often...I can still hear that "Yellow Submarine".

CDL

Author:  GKC [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rock

Athanasius wrote:
As much as I've tried to resist and as much as I don't like the drug associations with it there is much of rock that I do enjoy. I've always had a grudging appreciation for the Beattles who performed some of the best songs of the 60's and 70's. Jimmie Hendricks and that screamer from Texas still evoke fond memories. Heck, I even liked Bob Dylan. Pray for me. While you are at it did you like "Hey Jude", "Lucy in the Sky", "Purple Haze" and such? Are these just sinful tastes that hang on despite our best efforts or are they of some value for heaven?

Don't misunderstand, Jazz and classical still get top billing but every so often...I can still hear that "Yellow Submarine".

CDL


"Hey Jude", only.

Personal reasons.

GKC

Author:  Doom [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rock

The vast majority of rock music is just harmless fluff...I don't think there is anything 'sinful' about it, and of the minority of the rock music which actually has offensive content, a lot of that offensive content is covered up in obscure metaphor and euphemism that is hard to decipher by anyone who isn't actively LOOKING for offensive content.... I mean.... look at Jim Morrison song 'Love Me Two Times'.....allegedly this is an extremely vulgar and offensive song.... but this is by no means immediately apparent when hearing the song and its lyrics....

Honestly, I don't think there is anything 'sinful' about the vast majority of rock music.

Author:  Athanasius [ Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rock

Doom,

I hope you are right but just what was that "purple haze" that Jimmie sang so much about?

CDL

Author:  havana [ Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rock

By "rock," what do you mean? I just did my weekly downloads a little while ago and don't know how much of it I'd call rock.... Elvis Costello? Black Eyed Peas? Mos Def? Placebo? I'm head over heels for the new Rancid CD, but they're more like The Clash ("London Calling" era) and the new Sonic Youth CD, but it depends upon who you ask as to whether any of that's "rock." Everyone I know calls it "indie rock." The only current stuff that I'd call 'rock' is that Sammy Hagar side project Chickenfoot.

Although the vast majority is harmless fluff, there is nonetheless a resurgence in what used to be called the 'concept album': Green Day's CD (the one that got banned at the same Wal-Mart that allowed the x-rated "Zack and Miri" movie and the unrated "Saw 3": go Wal-Mart) and, in particular, Iggy Pop's new CD are both 'concept albums.' Iggy Pop's concept is a little more benign: it's all in French.

(And for those who think I have no taste in music (the CCM and gospel kind), I do like Mary Mary ("The Sound"), and more recently, "Free To Be Me" by Francesca Battistelli and "The Motions" by Matthew West. Is there any Catholic CCM, as opposed to the fundie-oriented CCM?)

So, I do think what "rock" means depends upon who you ask. :)

Author:  Athanasius [ Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:06 am ]
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havana,

Sorry, I don't know any of those groups.

CDL

Author:  AJ. [ Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:45 am ]
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I've been a Led Zepellin fan since I was a teenager and some of their songs are decidedly suspect. I think the attraction is that there is a certain spirituality to the music. If you listen to "Kashmir" it has a mystical eastern influence with a whole load of rock thrown in - sounds great. I couldn't care a less what Robert Plant was rabbiting on about.

I treat most Rock like "meat sacrificed to idols," if it doesn't violate my conscience, I don't worry about it. I do draw the line on overtly offensive material and stuff that is sacrilegious.

Author:  MySweetLord [ Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:22 pm ]
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I really like my rock. I know that some of it crosses the line, but most of it is fine. And I love Kashmir, too. My daughter and I enjoyed the Detroit Symphony Orchestra performing The Music of Led Zeppelin, with Randy Jackson doing vocals. It was an excellent show.

I like classic 60's and 70's stuff, and the British stuff that came to the US during the "British Invasion." I also like some of the newer stuff that my girls have introduced me to. Anyone here familiar with Apocalyptica?

I can appreciate just about any kind of music, with the exception of rap.

Author:  Doom [ Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rock

Athanasius wrote:
Doom,

I hope you are right but just what was that "purple haze" that Jimmie sang so much about?

CDL


'Purple Haze' is a long song, it describes the feeling of 'love at first sight', pay close attention to the lyrics, he sees a really beautiful and he is so struck by her beauty that he is in a kind of daze, the key to interpreting the song is the line in the first verse 'that girl put a spell on me'

Author:  Doom [ Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rock

MySweetLord wrote:
I can appreciate just about any kind of music, with the exception of rap.


Rap is not music, you steal a base line from someone else's song, and then you TALK, not sing but TALK over that baseline...... you call this 'music'? It has neither beat, nor rhythm, nor melody, nor even singing, nor anything that one would consider to be 'music'.....

ETA: Yeah, I know, everyone says 'it's a drug song', but Hendrix himself insisted that it was not, and given his general openness about his drug use, and the general social acceptability of drug use in the late 60's, he really had no reason to deny the song is about drugs other than that simply was not his intent.

Author:  Carole [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rock

I'm a rock fan. I like a wide variety of rock and old R&B. My MP3 player currently has Jackie Wilson and Sam Cooke playing next to Disturbed and Motley Crue. I go in phases. Sometimes I'm in the mood for the music my mom and dad listened to when I was a kid (50s and early 60s rock) at other times it's the music I listened to in high school (heavy metal) and sometimes I like newer bands (like Disturbed and Hinder).

I'm not a huge fan of most pop music (Lady Gaga, Brittney Spears, Beyonce, etc) and I am not a huge fan of what passes these days as R&B. But I do have fairly eclectic taste in music and I agree with Doom (I'm saying that a lot lately - finally reaching the age where I can say I fit in here must have mellowed me). Yes, there is some music that crosses the line but the vast majority of music (rock included) is, if not harmless, at least neutral.

Author:  havana [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:53 pm ]
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Doom wrote:
MySweetLord wrote:
I can appreciate just about any kind of music, with the exception of rap.


Rap is not music, you steal a base line from someone else's song, and then you TALK, not sing but TALK over that baseline...... you call this 'music'? It has neither beat, nor rhythm, nor melody, nor even singing, nor anything that one would consider to be 'music'.....



The first rap song (according to Casey Kasem) was "Rapture" by Blondie. She sang in that.

Of course rap is music. Nobody steals other peoples' bass lines anymore (that's a myth) and of course there's a melody. The Best Song at the Oscars a few years ago was from that movie "Hustle & Flow." It's so melodic there are still parodies of it. If there's no melody, then why are so many hip-hop tracks downloaded as ring tones?

Author:  faithfulservant [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:56 pm ]
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Athanasius wrote:
Jimmie Hendricks and that screamer from Texas still evoke fond memories.
CDL


dude that's jimi hendrix and who in the world is the screamer from texas :scratch: buddy holly doesn't fit , and neither does srv

to answer your initial question , i am a child of the 60s and loved ALL the music from that period...and into the 70s... in fact , when i listen to the radio (which is seldom) , i'm still tuning in to the classic rock stations in the area...we are blessed to have 2 :cloud9: the 80s were a waste for the most part for me afa music...with a few exceptions

it's rock and roll all the way always and forever for me 8-)

Author:  Athanasius [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rock

Janis Joplin.

CDL

Author:  Candlemass [ Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rock

Doom wrote:
The vast majority of rock music is just harmless fluff...I don't think there is anything 'sinful' about it, and of the minority of the rock music which actually has offensive content, a lot of that offensive content is covered up in obscure metaphor and euphemism that is hard to decipher by anyone who isn't actively LOOKING for offensive content.... I mean.... look at Jim Morrison song 'Love Me Two Times'.....allegedly this is an extremely vulgar and offensive song.... but this is by no means immediately apparent when hearing the song and its lyrics....

Honestly, I don't think there is anything 'sinful' about the vast majority of rock music.


Robby Kreiger wrote that one. He said it was about the men who went off to war, their women would "love them 2X" to make it last.

Author:  faithfulservant [ Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:02 am ]
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Athanasius wrote:
Janis Joplin.

CDL


she could sing the blues...no doubt about it... no wonder i couldn't figure it out...i was thinking of the wrong sex :oops:

Author:  Candlemass [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rock

I agree w/Doom's assertions for the most part. However w/someone like me, much of The Doors has been associated w/a decedant lifestyle, that was the soundtrack if you will for my living in a distant land. It's hard for me to listen to them now w/out those feelings being stirred up, it was far more intense when I was emulating Jim! :twisted:

Author:  Athanasius [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rock

Some Music from my favorite "rock" group http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja35dyPxE74

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP7rjppeRA0

This isn't bad either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwCBh0z3Hs

Author:  faithfulservant [ Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rock

#1 could make out none of the song

#2 heard a little of the song

#3 even with equipment problems , hendrix rooooolzzzzzzzzzz

Author:  Athanasius [ Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rock

faithfulservant wrote:
#1 could make out none of the song

#2 heard a little of the song

#3 even with equipment problems , hendrix rooooolzzzzzzzzzz


The problems you had with 1 and 2 all go back to the fact that you were trying to make out the words. My violin playing son had the same problem when he went to college. His friends kept asking him why he liked all those songs without words. :? :)

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