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 Post subject: Well at the World's End - William Morris
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:45 pm 
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Not too far into it but it's good.
I read that this book served at least as some motivation for Tolkein's LOTR trilogy.

I've read Tolkein, MacDonald, but this is the first time where you get inundated with some archaic English. Once you learn the meanings it flows pretty well.

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p.falk wrote:
Not too far into it but it's good.
I read that this book served at least as some motivation for Tolkein's LOTR trilogy.

I've read Tolkein, MacDonald, but this is the first time where you get inundated with some archaic English. Once you learn the meanings it flows pretty well.



Yep. Try THE WOOD BEYOND THE WORLD.

And later try some E.R. Eddison.

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Does the Well at the World’s End supply water to the Restaurant at the End of the Universe? :scratch:

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Mrs. Timmy wrote:
Does the Well at the World’s End supply water to the Restaurant at the End of the Universe? :scratch:



I wish I had asked that.

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Mrs. Timmy wrote:
Does the Well at the World’s End supply water to the Restaurant at the End of the Universe? :scratch:


I wish I had asked that.


Dinna faish yerself. Just curl up with your towel and have another Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster.

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Mrs. Timmy wrote:
GKC wrote:
Mrs. Timmy wrote:
Does the Well at the World’s End supply water to the Restaurant at the End of the Universe? :scratch:


I wish I had asked that.


Dinna faish yerself. Just curl up with your towel and have another Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster.


IOW, don't panic.

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 Post subject: Re: Well at the World's End - William Morris
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GKC wrote:
Mrs. Timmy wrote:
GKC wrote:
Mrs. Timmy wrote:
Does the Well at the World’s End supply water to the Restaurant at the End of the Universe? :scratch:


I wish I had asked that.


Dinna faish yerself. Just curl up with your towel and have another Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster.


IOW, don't panic.

I wish I had said that. ::):

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 Post subject: Re: Well at the World's End - William Morris
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Does the Well at the World’s End supply water to the Restaurant at the End of the Universe? :scratch:


You are too clever, by half.

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 Post subject: Re: Well at the World's End - William Morris
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Does the Well at the World’s End supply water to the Restaurant at the End of the Universe? :scratch:


You are too clever, by half.

So I’m a half-wit? :troll

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 Post subject: Re: Well at the World's End - William Morris
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Norwegianblue wrote:
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Mandela Effect strikes again!!

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 Post subject: Re: Well at the World's End - William Morris
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p.falk wrote:
Not too far into it but it's good.
I read that this book served at least as some motivation for Tolkein's LOTR trilogy.

I've read Tolkein, MacDonald, but this is the first time where you get inundated with some archaic English. Once you learn the meanings it flows pretty well.



Yep. Try THE WOOD BEYOND THE WORLD.

And later try some E.R. Eddison.


THanks for the tip.

I see MacDonald and Morris are only ten years apart in birth. I tried to see if there was any correspondence between the two.... but no luck finding it yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Well at the World's End - William Morris
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Still not done with this book, but there are some interesting elements related to Catholicism.

At one point in the story a king's son and the king (and the factions that support each) are about to battle with each other.... due to a split that occurred when the king's son became romantically involved with a lady that many men vie for once they see how beautiful she is.
Just as they were about to start killing each other, from the abbey come priests holding up "The Blessed Sacrament" and seeing it was enough to make the two sides hold their peace and not battle.

Also, there's a lady who is a sorceress (a couple of them) but to show that is not fully depraved she mentions how she still honors the Church, the Trinity, and the Blessed Sacrament. There are a few other mentions too.

According to Wikipedia William Morris was an agnostic.... so maybe these references to the Church, Trinity, and Blessed Sacrament turn out hold a different value later in the book. But as for now it's interesting to come across.

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 Post subject: Re: Well at the World's End - William Morris
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p.falk wrote:
Still not done with this book, but there are some interesting elements related to Catholicism.

At one point in the story a king's son and the king (and the factions that support each) are about to battle with each other.... due to a split that occurred when the king's son became romantically involved with a lady that many men vie for once they see how beautiful she is.
Just as they were about to start killing each other, from the abbey come priests holding up "The Blessed Sacrament" and seeing it was enough to make the two sides hold their peace and not battle.

Also, there's a lady who is a sorceress (a couple of them) but to show that is not fully depraved she mentions how she still honors the Church, the Trinity, and the Blessed Sacrament. There are a few other mentions too.

According to Wikipedia William Morris was an agnostic.... so maybe these references to the Church, Trinity, and Blessed Sacrament turn out hold a different value later in the book. But as for now it's interesting to come across.


Without being a Morris expert, and not having looked at relevant books, fiction/nonfiction on the topic, in a long time, I'd guess that was part of Morris' vision of romantic medievalism.

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 Post subject: Re: Well at the World's End - William Morris
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That was my thought also. He hung out with Dante Gabriel Rosetti. What more evidence do you need?

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 Post subject: Re: Well at the World's End - William Morris
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That was my thought also. He hung out with Dante Gabriel Rosetti. What more evidence do you need?



Sworn deposition?

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 Post subject: Re: Well at the World's End - William Morris
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I liked it.
I was long and at times repetitive with telling of the constant journeying.
Little in the way of meaningful obstacles for the protagonist (Ralph). He pretty much kicks butt whenever a challenge arises. But that's probably not the main point of this story.

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