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 Post subject: Re: The Man who was Thursday
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    Every material object, however mean, has its numbers; but wisdom was granted, not to material objects or even to all souls, but only to rational souls, as if it set up in them a throne from which to dispose all the things, however lowly, to which it gave numbers. But wisdom gave numbers to everything, even to the lowliest and most far-flung things. Thus, since we perceive the numbers that are stamped upon them, we can easily make judgments about material objects as things ordered lower than ourselves. Consequently, we come to think that numbers themselves are also lower than we are, and we hold them in low esteem. But when we begin to look above ourselves again, we find that numbers transcend our minds and remain fixed in the truth itself. And since few ran be wise, but even fools can count, people marvel at wisdom but disparage number. But the learned and studious, as they separate themselves more and more from earthly filth, come to see ever more dearly that wisdom and number are united in the truth itself, and they regard both as precious. In comparison with that truth, they consider everything else worthless—not just the silver and gold that human beings covet, but their very selves.
St. Augustine, On Free Choice of the Will, Book 2, #11.

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 Post subject: Re: The Man who was Thursday
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Givi46 wrote:
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]Who is this that is pressuring you discard the artwork and worship interpretation? Send them away.

Pragmatic modern/contemporary American culture as a whole. Don't worry, I've sent it as far away as I can manage from me (no very, I reckon, but still). I'm urging others to, too. Not to pick on Givi, but this whole thread is an example of what I mean. "Trying to sort out the ending," as though it were something to be figured out.

I don't mind applicability, but allegory is something I cordially dislike in all its forms.


Suppose I was speaking allegorically when I wrote that? :wink:
What I really meant was that I'd gotten a collection of loose pages out of sort and was looking for page sequences, naturally. :mrgreen:


Oh. Numbers.

As is well known, I can't do numbers.


Numbers, like whisky, are the devil.


They're leading you astray?

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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
    Every material object, however mean, has its numbers; but wisdom was granted, not to material objects or even to all souls, but only to rational souls, as if it set up in them a throne from which to dispose all the things, however lowly, to which it gave numbers. But wisdom gave numbers to everything, even to the lowliest and most far-flung things. Thus, since we perceive the numbers that are stamped upon them, we can easily make judgments about material objects as things ordered lower than ourselves. Consequently, we come to think that numbers themselves are also lower than we are, and we hold them in low esteem. But when we begin to look above ourselves again, we find that numbers transcend our minds and remain fixed in the truth itself. And since few ran be wise, but even fools can count, people marvel at wisdom but disparage number. But the learned and studious, as they separate themselves more and more from earthly filth, come to see ever more dearly that wisdom and number are united in the truth itself, and they regard both as precious. In comparison with that truth, they consider everything else worthless—not just the silver and gold that human beings covet, but their very selves.
St. Augustine, On Free Choice of the Will, Book 2, #11.


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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
St. Augustine liked numbers.


And books?

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Over hills and mountains, and to Amerikay.

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 Post subject: Re: The Man who was Thursday
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St. Augustine liked numbers.


Well harrumph! Then I don't like St. Augustine!

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 Post subject: Re: The Man who was Thursday
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Dislike might be a strong word... I like him more than Aquinas' writing wise.

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Numbers, like whisky, are the devil.


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They're leading you astray?

Over hills and mountains, and to Amerikay.


Then numbers are your darling, drunk or sober?

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Numbers, like whisky, are the devil.


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They're leading you astray?

Over hills and mountains, and to Amerikay.


Then numbers are your darling, drunk or sober?

Yes, especially when the French are fighting boldly

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Givi46 wrote:
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They're leading you astray?

Over hills and mountains, and to Amerikay.


Then numbers are your darling, drunk or sober?

Yes, especially when the French are fighting boldly


I conclude there are numbers in the jar, then.

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:shock: :shock: :cry: :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: The Man who was Thursday
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(A reply for Doom, given my inability to post any PMs, currently):

I can't post PMs, currently. So I won't. If this cures itself, I will.

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i would like to report that "friday" by heinlein received 4.3 stars by amazon readers

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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
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:shock: :shock: :cry: :cry:

:shock: :cry: :shock: :cry:

:cry: :cry: :shock: :shock:

:cry: :shock: :cry: :shock: :cry: :shock:

One day notebooks shall be filled, and I'll be forced to study Aquinas, a red day, a day of wolves, but not this day!

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i would like to report that "friday" by heinlein received 4.3 stars by amazon readers

What's a heinlein?

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