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Author:  kage_ar [ Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:35 am ]
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A Pope and a President: John Paul II, Ronald Reagan, and the Extraordinary Untold Story of the 20th Century by Paul Kengor

"Picked" it up at my library (Hoopla app) late last night. Stayed up past my bedtime because it was interesting.

Anyone else here read this one yet? It is new, so, not yet out there discounted used - but, it is less than $10 for Kindle and you may be able to get it from your library.

Author:  Doom [ Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:43 pm ]
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It is one of approximately 984,567,675,322 books that I have purchased but never even opened let alone read.

Author:  Obi-Wan Kenobi [ Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:46 pm ]
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2 × 7 × 11 × 4463 × 1432511

No repeated factors and two very large ones. Well chosen!

Author:  kage_ar [ Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:34 pm ]
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Doom wrote:
It is one of approximately 984,567,675,322 books that I have purchased but never even opened let alone read.


Did you buy the dead tree or the ebook? If dead tree, I'll buy it off you!

Author:  Doom [ Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:06 pm ]
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Dead tree? How quaint.

Author:  Jack3 [ Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:34 am ]
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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
2 × 7 × 11 × 4463 × 1432511

No repeated factors and two very large ones. Well chosen!

I'd like to report Fr Kenobi for thinking 4463 to be large.

Author:  Dorothy B. [ Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:32 pm ]
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kage_ar wrote:
A Pope and a President: John Paul II, Ronald Reagan, and the Extraordinary Untold Story of the 20th Century by Paul Kengor

"Picked" it up at my library (Hoopla app) late last night. Stayed up past my bedtime because it was interesting.

Anyone else here read this one yet? It is new, so, not yet out there discounted used - but, it is less than $10 for Kindle and you may be able to get it from your library.


I have a small stack of about six books to read and that is one of them. Whenever I get birthday, Mother's day gifts, Christmas gifts, Easter gifts, of $ from my children I buy books and DVDs and lend the books to people I know will return them, and invite friends over for a pot luck lunch to see an inspiring movie.

I need to make that book the next one I will read!

Author:  GKC [ Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:50 am ]
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Doom wrote:
It is one of approximately 984,567,675,322 books that I have purchased but never even opened let alone read.



Amateur.

Author:  GKC [ Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:56 am ]
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Doom far more comforting. wrote:
Dead tree? How quaint.



:soap:

I looked at some non-books on my daughter's Kindle, on my just completed visit with her. Aesthetically unpleasing. The real books surrounding it far more satisfactory.

I also bought 7 books while there, left her 2 books I read during the trip, read one of hers (actually one of mine she had "borrowed"), and brought back one of mine I had left on the previous trip.

Author:  Notnew [ Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:57 am ]
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GKC wrote:
Doom wrote:
It is one of approximately 984,567,675,322 books that I have purchased but never even opened let alone read.



Amateur.

::):

Author:  Doom [ Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:53 pm ]
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I just started reading this, and I have to say that I don't think it is very good. And the author is obsessed with Medjugorje, and a significant portion of the book is dedicated to this fake apparition. I don't see what relevance this nonsense has to the alleged topic of the book.

Author:  Dorothy B. [ Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:36 am ]
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kage_ar wrote:
A Pope and a President: John Paul II, Ronald Reagan, and the Extraordinary Untold Story of the 20th Century by Paul Kengor

"Picked" it up at my library (Hoopla app) late last night. Stayed up past my bedtime because it was interesting.

Anyone else here read this one yet? It is new, so, not yet out there discounted used - but, it is less than $10 for Kindle and you may be able to get it from your library.


I am up to page 370 of the book now. It goes into depth of the history I only knew on the surface when I was very young. I
loved to read books by Fulton J. Sheen, and learned a lot of what communism was all about because of him. In my opinion that book is very pertinent to what is going on today.

It also gave much information about how socialist leaders lied, killed, and would do anything to become the power in the world.
I knew about the holiness of Pope St. John Paul, but did not know about Ronald Reagan. How extraordinary how the two minds that weren't fooled by what communism and socialism was all about were eventually brought together.

A fascinating and timely book!

Peace,

Dorothy

Author:  kage_ar [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:01 am ]
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Doom wrote:
I just started reading this, and I have to say that I don't think it is very good. And the author is obsessed with Medjugorje, and a significant portion of the book is dedicated to this fake apparition. I don't see what relevance this nonsense has to the alleged topic of the book.


My practice of reading multiple books at once catches up to me sometimes and my library loan runs out. I did not get to the parts on Medj, I would have shut it down right then and there! Thanks for the heads up, I will not put in another loan request for this one.

Author:  Doom [ Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:49 pm ]
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kage_ar wrote:
Doom wrote:
I just started reading this, and I have to say that I don't think it is very good. And the author is obsessed with Medjugorje, and a significant portion of the book is dedicated to this fake apparition. I don't see what relevance this nonsense has to the alleged topic of the book.


My practice of reading multiple books at once catches up to me sometimes and my library loan runs out. I did not get to the parts on Medj, I would have shut it down right then and there! Thanks for the heads up, I will not put in another loan request for this one.


He goes into some depth describing the events of Medjugorje, and talks at lenght about whether or not Reagan had ever heard of the 'apparition', and if so, what he might have thought about it. At no point does he explain how the topic of Medjugorje is relevant to the subject matter of the book.

Author:  anawim [ Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:28 am ]
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Haven't bought it yet, but I'm planning on doing so.

Author:  Riverboat [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:06 pm ]
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Doom wrote:
He goes into some depth describing the events of Medjugorje, and talks at length about whether or not Reagan had ever heard of the 'apparition', and if so, what he might have thought about it.

Sounds like a monomania to me. Glad I scrolled down for the rest of the comments before I pursued this book any further.

Author:  Doom [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:18 pm ]
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Riverboat wrote:
Doom wrote:
He goes into some depth describing the events of Medjugorje, and talks at length about whether or not Reagan had ever heard of the 'apparition', and if so, what he might have thought about it.

Sounds like a monomania to me. Glad I scrolled down for the rest of the comments before I pursued this book any further.


There are much better books out there on the same subject. For example, there is 'The President, the Pope, and the Prime Minister' by John O'Sullivan, who was (maybe still is, I don't know) the editor in chief of National Review. This book is about the rather amazing fact that in the 1980's, Reagan, John Paul II and Margaret Thatcher were all on the same page about opposing Communism and how their policies meshed together. Thatcher is the one person who is often omitted from this discussion by Americans, it's easy for Americans to forget that Thatcher was elected nearly 2 years before Reagan and that Reagan watched her closely and modeled his own 1980 campaign after the Conservative Party victory in the 1979 general election in the UK.

In addition to being the editor in chief of National Review, O'Sullivan was also the editor of the London Times and was a speechwriter for Thatcher.

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