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if you are a michener fan, this is one i enjoyed immensely when i was a kid... you're a tad young for the impact, but it will take you far away .... all over europe in fact... goodreads rated it 4/5 ... barnes and noble 4.5/5 ... it is called the drifters :wave

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I've never read (or seen) GWTW. :fyi: :|

I've never read The Master of Hestviken, either. :fyi: :|

A novel for listnin': Oliver Twist. There must be audio versions. It's definitely not Dickens's best, but it's a (comparatively) compact little story and pretty fun.



Read all of Dickens in school (remember, I was homeschooled :) ) While I am glad that I have read them, they are not on my "must read again" list.

I don't think you can count a book read (probably) under compulsion in your high school years as a book you've really read. :fyi:


I will admit to a mental list of works I count among favorites I might never have read if i hadn't been required to do so for a middle/high school class. Among them:

A Canticle For Leibowitz by Walter M. Miller, Jr.(7th grade)
Night by Elie Wiesel (8th grade)
The Cask of Amontillado by Edgar Allen Poe (8th grade)
A Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens (9th grade) - his best work, in my opinion
Cyrano de Bergerac by Edmond Rostand (10th grade)
The Necklace by Guy de Maupassant (10th grade)
Beowulf (11th grade) - seriously! I was blessed with a great teacher who made reading it fun
The Metamorphosis by Franz Kafka (12th grade)
The Death of Ivan Ilyich by Leo Tolstoy (12th grade)

I'm still regretting a little bit having graduated early and missing out on reading The Brothers Karamazov with my class, mainly because I still haven't read it.

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the only one i read in high school from that list is the cask of amontillado ... read the metamorphosis in college

not sure my memory would let me list the books i read for jr and high school... i could list some, but i don't think i could get all by a long shot

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I've never read The Master of Hestviken, either. :fyi: :|


:shock: This must be rectified ASAP! :shock: :fyi:


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Either that or a soccer game, Father. Pick your penitential act. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: A good novel, is that too much to ask?
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I've never read (or seen) GWTW. :fyi: :|

I've never read The Master of Hestviken, either. :fyi: :|

A novel for listnin': Oliver Twist. There must be audio versions. It's definitely not Dickens's best, but it's a (comparatively) compact little story and pretty fun.



Read all of Dickens in school (remember, I was homeschooled :) ) While I am glad that I have read them, they are not on my "must read again" list.

I don't think you can count a book read (probably) under compulsion in your high school years as a book you've really read. :fyi:


Read them in grade school :) But, I was the geek kid who opened the new box of curriculum each year then promptly read ALL of the novels once before they were assigned.

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Either that or a soccer game, Father. Pick your penitential act. :twisted:

I'd rather watch The Phantom Menace.

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if you are a michener fan, this is one i enjoyed immensely when i was a kid... you're a tad young for the impact, but it will take you far away .... all over europe in fact... goodreads rated it 4/5 ... barnes and noble 4.5/5 ... it is called the drifters :wave


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loved the miniseries ... never read the book :fyi:

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Either that or a soccer game, Father. Pick your penitential act. :twisted:


Definitely not the soccer game.

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 Post subject: Re: A good novel, is that too much to ask?
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You proved my point. Your entire critique is based on post-modern attitudes and political correctness, not of the unreconstructed first decades of 20th-century old-money Atlanta society in which Peggy Mitchell Marsh grew up, listening to men and women telling their first-hand accounts of the War of Northern Aggression as if it was yesterday. You don't like the book. Fine - no one's forcing you. But your personal dislike has no effect on the place in history firmly cemented by what is written on the pages of Gone With the Wind.


Yup. Second verse, same as the first.

And I wouldn't rate it a a top of the line novel. It is dated.

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I've never read (or seen) GWTW. :fyi: :|

I've never read The Master of Hestviken, either. :fyi: :|

A novel for listnin': Oliver Twist. There must be audio versions. It's definitely not Dickens's best, but it's a (comparatively) compact little story and pretty fun.



Read all of Dickens in school (remember, I was homeschooled :) ) While I am glad that I have read them, they are not on my "must read again" list.

I don't think you can count a book read (probably) under compulsion in your high school years as a book you've really read. :fyi:


Read them in grade school :) But, I was the geek kid who opened the new box of curriculum each year then promptly read ALL of the novels once before they were assigned.

All the more then, you haven't really read them.

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It is physically painful for me to say this but I agree with gherkin. Any book you read in high school, even solely for recreation, is a book you never really read. Read any book you read in high school again 10,20,30 years later and you will be surprised at how much you missed.

I read Huckleberry Finn in high school, and last year I read it again. I have alway been a very attentive reader, and my reading level has always been much higher than any of my peers, but reading Huckleberry Finn again 25 years later I was surprised by how much I missed the first time around, how many jokes I didn't understand, how many references didn't make sense to me, how many subplots I missed, I truly didn't understand anything the first time I read it.

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All the King's Men, Robert Penn Warren. I'm glad I read it as an adult; I did not have the life experience as a youth or young adult to understand the depth of character, motivation, and decisions of the characters.

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Oh, I've tried to re-read Dickens, he is simply not my cup of tea. I also LOATHE every Russian novel I've ever attempted to read... and there is the whole hating fantasy thingy...

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It is physically painful for me to say this but I agree with gherkin. Any book you read in high school, even solely for recreation, is a book you never really read. Read any book you read in high school again 10,20,30 years later and you will be surprised at how much you missed.

I read Huckleberry Finn in high school, and last year I read it again. I have alway been a very attentive reader, and my reading level has always been much higher than any of my peers, but reading Huckleberry Finn again 25 years later I was surprised by how much I missed the first time around, how many jokes I didn't understand, how many references didn't make sense to me, how many subplots I missed, I truly didn't understand anything the first time I read it.


That happend to me when I went to re-read one of my childhood favorites - "Swiss Family Robinson". Heavens, no, I could not see what I'd found so wonderful.

Other books I read as a kid, for example "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn" or "Cosmic Engineers" I re-read them every few years.

Jude has challenged me to re-read Dune.

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It is physically painful for me to say this but I agree with gherkin. Any book you read in high school, even solely for recreation, is a book you never really read. Read any book you read in high school again 10,20,30 years later and you will be surprised at how much you missed.

I read Huckleberry Finn in high school, and last year I read it again. I have alway been a very attentive reader, and my reading level has always been much higher than any of my peers, but reading Huckleberry Finn again 25 years later I was surprised by how much I missed the first time around, how many jokes I didn't understand, how many references didn't make sense to me, how many subplots I missed, I truly didn't understand anything the first time I read it.


That happend to me when I went to re-read one of my childhood favorites - "Swiss Family Robinson". Heavens, no, I could not see what I'd found so wonderful.

Other books I read as a kid, for example "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn" or "Cosmic Engineers" I re-read them every few years.

Jude has challenged me to re-read Dune.



As a young'un, Swiss Family Robinson was my LOTR. I can't count how often I read it, through high school. I recall it with pleasure today.

Things like this are why I avoid recommending reading, esp. outside a requested genre that I know well.

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and there is the whole hating fantasy thingy...

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the only one i read in high school from that list is the cask of amontillado ... read the metamorphosis in college

not sure my memory would let me list the books i read for jr and high school... i could list some, but i don't think i could get all by a long shot



It would require going back 56 years, in my case. I could recall a few. But not enough to count. Best guess was I covered 5 of Mrs. Timmy's list, in high school. Senior year in high school was a survey of world lit. Russian, Spanish, French, Japanese, Denmark. Third year high school French also covered classic French lit.

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