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 Post subject: GP Fogarty, SJ, ed Patterns of Episcopal Leadership
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:43 pm 
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I just finished reading my second book of the six-volume set Makers of the Catholic Community, published in 1989 as a part of the celebration of the Bicentennial History of the Catholic Church in America, and I pray to find copies of the other volumes that I can afford. I recently posted separately on my first volume, Catholic Intellectual Life in American, and still hope there will be other comments in that thread, as well as this one.
The "Episcopal" volume consists of commentaries on the lives, issues, and accomplishments of 16 "of the most influential (bishops) in American history," and I strongly recommend this book and the full set, which was financed primarily by the Knights of Columbus.
Efforts to write Church history raise enormous issues and questions about one's philosophy of history, especially when we consider how to express the reality of disagreement and controversy of either past or current Church issues, whether liturgical, organizational, or political.
I deeply believe that learning from history, especially from the Word of God, is our best hope of improving our future.


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 Post subject: Re: GP Fogarty, SJ, ed Patterns of Episcopal Leadership
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Who are the sixteen?

John Carroll
John Ireland
Cardinal Spellman
I can never keep the Kenricks straight
John Lancaster Spalding
John Neumann
John Cardinal Gibbons
Maybe John Hughes

An awful lot of important bishops have been named John. My American Church History teacher noted that if you add JFK to the mix, you can cover most of the course material just by talking about people named John.

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 Post subject: Re: GP Fogarty, SJ, ed Patterns of Episcopal Leadership
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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
John Cardinal Gibbons

Isn't His Eminence named "James"?

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 Post subject: Re: GP Fogarty, SJ, ed Patterns of Episcopal Leadership
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:58 am 
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I'd preferred to list the sixteen with accurate titles and dates, but to pull them accurately from the text is hard work, and all details aren't cited; instead I'll show the rather curious three parts the book is divided into:
1789-1850 The period of Anglo-French domination (?)
First US Bishop John Carroll Baltimore 1789-
Bishop Louis DuBourg Louisiana 1815-1826
Bishop Benedict Flaget Bardstown 1810-1850
Bishop John England Charleston 1820-1842

1850-1910 The immigrant Church (?)
Archbishop John Purcell Cincinnati 1833-1883
Archbishop Martin Spaulding Louisville 1848-1872
Archbishop James Gibbons Baltimore 1877-1921 Bishop N Carolina 1868-72; Bishop Richmond 1872-1877
Archbishop John Ireland St Paul 1875-1918
Archbishop Michael Corrigan NYC 1885-1902 Bishop New Jersey 1873-1880

1910-1960 Romanization and Modernization (?)
Cardinal William O'Connell Boston 1907-1944 Bishop Portland 1901-1906
Archbishop Patrick Riordan San Francisco 1884-1914
Bishop Francis Kelly Oklahoma City 1924-1944
Cardinal George Mundelein Chicago 1915?-1939
Cardinal John Cody Chicago 1965-? Coadjutor New Orleans 1961-1965
Cardinal Francis Spellman NYC -1939-1967 Auxiliary Bishop Boston 1932-1939
Archbishop Paul Hallinan Charleston Atlanta 1962-1968 Bishop Charleston 1958-1962

I made this summary very quickly--please don't hesitate to point out errors.


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 Post subject: Re: GP Fogarty, SJ, ed Patterns of Episcopal Leadership
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I got only three. Humph. I was trying to remember Bishop England.

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 Post subject: Re: GP Fogarty, SJ, ed Patterns of Episcopal Leadership
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:09 am 
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Odd that St. John Neumann is not included. Perhaps he's included in another volume? But it's primarily for his work as a bishop that we remember him.

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 Post subject: Re: GP Fogarty, SJ, ed Patterns of Episcopal Leadership
PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:37 am 
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I have met Fr. Fogarty and heard him preach several times. And IIRC, he once heard my confession. I would not say that I had a low opinion of him in any way. But on the other hand I would not say that I would have considered him an outstanding example of traditional Catholic thought and piety. My guess about such a book would be that it would be kind of pretty OK--no issues with the scholarship qua scholarship, but perhaps some emphases that wouldn't line up well with mine.

That's all highly impressionistic, of course.

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 Post subject: Re: GP Fogarty, SJ, ed Patterns of Episcopal Leadership
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A publication date of 1989 and the word "community" in the title are two good indicators that your suspicions are probably correct.

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A bit surprized there was no mention of Arbp Fulton Sheen - a somewhat well known american bishop.

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 Post subject: Re: GP Fogarty, SJ, ed Patterns of Episcopal Leadership
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Not, I suspect, one a 1980s Jesuit would be likely to want to point out.

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 Post subject: Re: GP Fogarty, SJ, ed Patterns of Episcopal Leadership
PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 3:41 pm 
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Wouldn't it be a fascinating confirmation of the "flexibility" of Pope Francis if he would canonize Archbishop Sheen despite the disparity of their public images?
I suppose the more important question is whether the Church can somehow reconcile its celebration of poverty and suffering (if incurred in the Name of the Trinity) with its deploring them for all who would prefer relief (whether Christian or not).
Curiously, the Fogarty book provides no comment that I can find on the lifestyles of American Bishops, nor others, and to what extent the "holiness" so many seem so enthusiastic about in the our present Pope is justifiably based on public image, despite his apparent willingness to overlook, and perhaps even condone, dreadful sins because of "mitigating circumstances."


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 Post subject: Re: GP Fogarty, SJ, ed Patterns of Episcopal Leadership
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The holdup on the Sheen cause is not in Rome.

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