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Author:  St. Irenaeus of Lyons [ Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:29 pm ]
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A search on "spies" of all the forums in this message board yielded nothing, so I suppose nobody has mentioned this book by Mark Riebling (Note: I originally misspelled this as "Riesling"): Church of Spies: The Pope’s Secret War Against Hitler

Mercator.net offers this review: Church of Spies: The Pope’s secret war against Hitler.

Author:  GKC [ Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:53 pm ]
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St. Irenaeus of Lyons wrote:
A search on "spies" of all the forums in this message board yielded nothing, so I suppose nobody has mentioned this book by Mark Riesling: Church of Spies: The Pope’s Secret War Against Hitler

Mercator.net offers this review: Church of Spies: The Pope’s secret war against Hitler.



Haven't mentioned it. But I've been eyeballing it at B&N.

Author:  lbt [ Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:21 pm ]
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I have this book and am reading it. :wave

Author:  Doom [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:29 pm ]
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I read this book

Author:  Obi-Wan Kenobi [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:43 pm ]
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And .....

Author:  GKC [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:21 pm ]
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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
And .....



I agree with Obi-Wan.

Author:  Doom [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:23 pm ]
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Well, no one asked what anyone thought of the book, only if anyone had read it. :)

Author:  GKC [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:33 pm ]
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Doom wrote:
Well, no one asked what anyone thought of the book, only if anyone had read it. :)



What did you think of the book?

Author:  lbt [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:41 pm ]
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This book does describe the scene how Hitler and his wife, Eva, died...

Author:  GKC [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:04 am ]
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lbt wrote:
This book does describe the scene how Hitler and his wife, Eva, died...



In the bunker, poison/gun?

Author:  TreeBeard [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:59 am ]
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Doom wrote:
Well, no one asked what anyone thought of the book, only if anyone had read it. :)

Welcome back.

Author:  lbt [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:22 am ]
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GKC wrote:
lbt wrote:
This book does describe the scene how Hitler and his wife, Eva, died...



In the bunker, poison/gun?


Yes, on pages 236-237.

Author:  GKC [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:12 am ]
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lbt wrote:
GKC wrote:
lbt wrote:
This book does describe the scene how Hitler and his wife, Eva, died...



In the bunker, poison/gun?


Yes, on pages 236-237.


It's the commonly accepted story.

Author:  Doom [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:17 am ]
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GKC wrote:
lbt wrote:
GKC wrote:
lbt wrote:
This book does describe the scene how Hitler and his wife, Eva, died...



In the bunker, poison/gun?


Yes, on pages 236-237.


It's the commonly accepted story.


There are eyewitness accounts. Have you perchance, seen the German movie 'Der Untergang', English title 'Downfall'? It tells the story of Hitler's last week in the bunker, the source of the story is the diary and personal reminiscences of Hitler's own secretary, Trudl Junge, who was there when it happened, and her memories are confirmed by the memories of a few others who there. She died in 2002.

Author:  GKC [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:30 am ]
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Doom wrote:
GKC wrote:
lbt wrote:
GKC wrote:
lbt wrote:
This book does describe the scene how Hitler and his wife, Eva, died...



In the bunker, poison/gun?


Yes, on pages 236-237.


It's the commonly accepted story.


There are eyewitness accounts. Have you perchance, seen the German movie 'Der Untergang', English title 'Downfall'? It tells the story of Hitler's last week in the bunker, the source of the story is the diary and personal reminiscences of Hitler's own secretary, Trudl Junge, who was there when it happened, and her memories are confirmed by the memories of a few others who there. She died in 2002.


Have not see the movie. Have read a number of the accounts from those in the bunker, though not at the scene of the crime.

Author:  Doom [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:33 am ]
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GKC wrote:
Have not seen the movie. Have read a number of the accounts from those in the bunker, though not at the scene of the crime.


Apparently no one witnessed the actual suicide except those who participated in it. The movie doesn't show the suicide directly, it focuses on Junge, she is in another room and hears the gun being fired, but didn't witness it directly. I highly recommend the movie.

Author:  GKC [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:52 am ]
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Doom wrote:
GKC wrote:
Have not seen the movie. Have read a number of the accounts from those in the bunker, though not at the scene of the crime.


Apparently no one witnessed the actual suicide except those who participated in it. The movie doesn't show the suicide directly, it focuses on Junge, she is in another room and hears the gun being fired, but didn't witness it directly. I highly recommend the movie.



That no one saw it was my point, yes.

I would like to see the movie. Unlikely I will.

Author:  lbt [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:42 pm ]
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I saw the movie, and Trudl gave a talk, too.

Author:  GKC [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:52 pm ]
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lbt wrote:
I saw the movie, and Trudl gave a talk, too.



I have seen her interviewed.

Author:  lbt [ Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:01 am ]
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From RomeReorts:

http://www.romereports.com/2016/04/09/c ... own-hitler

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