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So as to not further derail the other thread....

Greg Lake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoxHGxQw ... re=related
Chewing gum as he plays "Still, You Turn Me On"!

And then:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeQsZOQq ... re=related

Keith Emerson chewing gum as he plays the keyboard on "Karn Evil 9"

And I'm not a big fan of extended drum solos but in that video I can't get over how fast Carl Palmer is on the drums and how much stamina he has.

These guys were really talented, it's too bad they weren't more successful. They didn't really have that many hits did they?

I still like listening to the one entire side of Brain Salad Surgery.

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 Post subject: Re: Emerson Lake and Palmer
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'Hits' and 'Progressive Rock' don't really mix well together.,,20 minute songs with 5 minute drum solos don't really work as singles

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i did find out that 'in the beginning' was their biggest selling us song...at #39 ... lucky man only hit #48 ... and something i did not know (either) was that hendrix was planning on getting together with them... and possibly forming the band HELP ... but he died before it could happen

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 Post subject: Re: Emerson Lake and Palmer
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also...they sold over 40 million records...i would say that is pretty successful :wave

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 Post subject: Re: Emerson Lake and Palmer
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http://www.epinions.com/content_3274743940 is a pretty good read

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Doom wrote:
'Hits' and 'Progressive Rock' don't really mix well together.,,20 minute songs with 5 minute drum solos don't really work as singles


"Progressive Rock". Here we go again.

They did have their share of hits. And while I originally was under the impression that they were not that successful, I read this on Wiki:

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By the end of 1974, ELP were just about tied with Led Zeppelin as the highest grossing live band in the world.


Who, btw, labels them "symphonic rock".

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 Post subject: Re: Emerson Lake and Palmer
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i did find out that 'in the beginning' was their biggest selling us song...at #39 ... lucky man only hit #48 ... and something i did not know (either) was that hendrix was planning on getting together with them... and possibly forming the band HELP ... but he died before it could happen


Gods way of saving ELP?

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i thought wiki also labeled them as progressive :scratch:

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 Post subject: Re: Emerson Lake and Palmer
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faithfulservant wrote:
i thought wiki also labeled them as progressive :scratch:


Yeah, they do that too in the same article. Just goes to show you how elusive and subjective the term is.

Progressive rock, syphonic rock, whatever...

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 Post subject: Re: Emerson Lake and Palmer
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'Progressive rock' means ;rock which focuses on longer songs with a structure' and that definitely described ELP which has a lot of songs that are 20 minutes or longer....of course 20 minutes is 'long' only in the context of rock music....most of the rest of the world outside of rock would not consider 20 minutes to be 'long' at all

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 Post subject: Re: Emerson Lake and Palmer
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Is Iron Butterfly Progressive Rock?

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 Post subject: Re: Emerson Lake and Palmer
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I'm listening to ELP's Brain Salad Surgery right now. Here are the time listings for the tracks:

2:44
7:23
2:53
2:21
8:37
4:46
7:07
9:25
13:41 edit: I hear now that this is just an bonus selection "The Making of Brain Salad Surgery" it's not a song.

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I also have the CD Emerson Lake & Palmer "Works Volume One". Here are the time listings for the tracks per the CD's:

Disc 1
9:18
2:09
6:50
4:00
4:17
4:35
3:56
5:34

Disc 2
3:16
5:42
2:45
1:53
3:58
5:09

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 Post subject: Re: Emerson Lake and Palmer
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I was able to find a track listing for their Tarkus album:

TARKUS
I. Eruption (Keith Emerson) 2:43
II. Stones of Years (Keith Emerson/Greg Lake) 3:43
III. Iconoclast (Keith Emerson) 1:16
IV. Mass (Keith Emerson/Greg Lake) 3:09
V. Manticore (Keith Emerson) 1:49
VI. Battlefield (Greg Lake) 3:57
VII. Aquatarkus (eith Emerson) 3:54
JEREMY BENDER (Keith Emerson/Greg Lake) 1:41
(censored) CRYSTAL (Keith Emerson/Greg Lake) 3:54
THE ONLY WAY (HYMN) (Keith Emerson/Greg Lake, themes used in intro and bridge only from J.S. Bach's Toccata in F and Prelude VI) 3:50
INFINITE SPACE (CONCLUSION) (Keith Emerson/Carl Palmer) 3:18
A TIME AND A PLACE (Keith Emerson/Greg Lake/Carl Palmer) 3:00
ARE YOU READY EDDY? (Keith Emerson/Greg Lake/Carl Palmer) 2:09

No song over 4 minutes.

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And Pictures at an Exhibition:

PROMENADE (Modest Mussorgsky) 1:56
THE GNOME (Modest Mussorgsky/Carl Palmer) 4:16
PROMENADE (Modest Mussorgsky/Greg Lake) 1:23
THE SAGE (Greg Lake) 4:40
THE OLD CASTLE (Modest Mussorgsky/Keith Emerson) 2:31
BLUES VARIATIONS (Keith Emerson/Greg Lake/Carl Palmer) 4:14
PROMENADE (Modest Mussorgsky) 1:28
THE HUT OF BABA YAGA (Modest Mussorgsky) 1:06
THE CURSE OF BABA YAGA (Keith Emerson/Greg Lake/Carl Palmer) 4:09
THE HUT OF BABA YAGA (Modest Mussorgsky) 1:06
THE GREAT GATES OF KIEV (Modest Mussorgsky/Greg Lake) 6:27
NUTROCKER (Kim Fowley) 4:33

4:40 is the longest song.

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Trilogy:

THE ENDLESS ENIGMA (PART 1) (Keith Emerson/Greg Lake) 6:37
FUGUE (Keith Emerson) 1:57
THE ENDLESS ENIGMA (PART 2) (Keith Emerson/Greg Lake) 2:00
FROM THE BEGINNING (Greg Lake) 4:14
THE SHERIFF (Keith Emerson/Greg Lake) 3:22
HOEDOWN (Aaron Copland) 3:48
TRILOGY (Keith Emerson/Greg Lake) 8:54
LIVING SIN (Keith Emerson/Greg Lake/Carl Palmer) 3:11
ABADDON'S BOLERO (Keith Emerson) 8:13

Longest song 8:13

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Chris G wrote:
They did have their share of hits



I don't think they ever officially released a single, like Led Zeppelin, any 'hit' they had was because radio stations started playing it.....it used to be possible, and even somewhat common, for a song to be 'discovered' by disk jockeys who just start playing it and it inadvertently becomes a hit without ever being officially released....and saying they had 'hits' is quite different from saying they had 'singles' which they most definitely did not, this is AOR, they didn't write 'singles'

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Doom wrote:
Chris G wrote:
They did have their share of hits



I don't think they ever officially released a single, like Led Zeppelin, any 'hit' they had was because radio stations started playing it.....it used to be possible, and even somewhat common, for a song to be 'discovered' by disk jockeys who just start playing it and it inadvertently becomes a hit without ever being officially released....and saying they had 'hits' is quite different from saying they had 'singles' which they most definitely did not, this is AOR, they didn't write 'singles'


Yes, they definitely release singles. Lucky man / Knife Edge was one.
Fine more here:

http://www.connollyco.com/discography/elp/stone.html

Or buy one here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ELP-LUCKY-MAN-KNIFE ... 2eb1cebebe

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Here's another single:

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One of Lake’s better ballads, “From The Beginning” became the band’s highest-charting US single to date. It’s the same as the elpee version, but with the acoustic guitar intro erased to give it a smoother face. Living Sin was left intact for the flip side, a song with much darker designs. In the Seventies, Atlantic reissued the A side along with another of Lake’s enduring entries, “Lucky Man.”



http://www.connollyco.com/discography/e ... ning7.html

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