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 Post subject: Are These Stories True?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:21 pm 
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If so, it's an abomination!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz0UQbQ2huw

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 Post subject: Re: Are These Stories True?
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If the only source you have is Church Militant, I would say the answer to the question 'is the story true?' is almost always going to be 'no'.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:27 pm 
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Really, they are flat out liars?

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 Post subject: Re: Are These Stories True?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:30 pm 
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Really, they are flat out liars?


Surely you're old enough now to understand that it is entirely possible to construct a completely false impression without ever actually resorting to an outright lie, in fact, CNN does it 24/7/365. In fact, doing this is not just 'possible' it's extremely easy.

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 Post subject: Re: Are These Stories True?
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Not really sure how you could do that w/these stories...

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 Post subject: Re: Are These Stories True?
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Not gonna watch it. Can you summarize?

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Not gonna watch it. Can you summarize?

Agree. Just providing a link is not sufficient, it could be a rick roll. :fyi:

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 Post subject: Re: Are These Stories True?
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Well, here's another source concerning one of the stories about a priest homeless in Denver for whistleblowing...

http://padreperegrino.org/2018/09/27/whistleblowing1/

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 Post subject: Re: Are These Stories True?
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Another source on Fr. Gatto, whom CM said he was funneling in gay priests for east coast seminaries...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mj0a7O5dGg

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 Post subject: Re: Are These Stories True?
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If the only source you have is Church Militant, I would say the answer to the question 'is the story true?' is almost always going to be 'no'.



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 Post subject: Re: Are These Stories True?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:14 am 
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I would suggest contacting the Archdiocese of Denver.

https://archden.org/clergy/rev-david-nix/#.W65ELWhKiM8

Until they release a statement, I store this one in the "rumor mill" file.

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 Post subject: Re: Are These Stories True?
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Not really sure how you could do that w/these stories...


Easily, you just cherry pick facts

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you know...kinda like our separated brethren cherry pick scripture 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: Are These Stories True?
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I gather that some of these stories deal with whistle-blower priests and similar situations. Fr. Dwight Longenecker's post on the Chicago priest who had a run-in with Cardinal Cupich is instructive and pretty much right on the point, I think: https://dwightlongenecker.com/the-curio ... r-kalchik/

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Another source on Fr. Gatto, whom CM said he was funneling in gay priests for east coast seminaries...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mj0a7O5dGg


this one suggests a completely different scenario :fyi:

https://www.wkbw.com/news/i-team/fr-joe ... allegation

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 Post subject: Re: Are These Stories True?
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you know...kinda like our separated brethren cherry pick scripture 8-)


In addition to cherry-picking facts, another tactic is to use loaded language, for example, 'a priest has been made homeless due to his whistleblowing'. Is that REALLY the most accurate or honest way to characterize what happened? If you asked his bishop, would you get the response 'well, that meddlesome priest was a whistleblower, so obviously, I had no choice but to make him homeless'? I rather doubt it.

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 Post subject: Re: Are These Stories True?
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If this is about Fr. Nix, then there's a lot more to the story than CM probably reported: https://www.catholicworldreport.com/201 ... by-priest/

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If this is about Fr. Nix, then there's a lot more to the story than CM probably reported: https://www.catholicworldreport.com/201 ... by-priest/


I don't want to sound closed minded, but I don't even need to read that article to know that CM's 'spin' was misleading. The way they described the story was enough to accomplish that.

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If this is about Fr. Nix, then there's a lot more to the story than CM probably reported: https://www.catholicworldreport.com/201 ... by-priest/


well that's certainly a horse of a different color


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