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 Post subject: Poll indicates: Most people dont trust polls
PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:02 am 
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A Marist-McClatchy poll — yes, a poll about polling — back in March found that only 7 percent of Americans have a great deal of trust in polls, and just 29 percent said they have a good amount of trust in polls. A combined majority said they don’t have very much trust in polls (39 percent) or don’t trust them at all (22 percent).


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Most other news organizations aren’t overhauling their polling operations after last year’s election. All four major broadcast television networks and two of the three largest national newspapers continue to use the same pollsters they did in 2016.


http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/1 ... 0?lo=ap_f1

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 Post subject: Re: Poll indicates: Most people dont trust polls
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Benjamin Disraeli had no idea just how right he was when he said "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

Polls are so easy to manipulate, it's ridiculous.

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 Post subject: Re: Poll indicates: Most people dont trust polls
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_dam ... statistics Mark Twain said that Disraeli said it. No one has been able to locate where. I don't trust quotations either :fyi:

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EtcumSpiri22-0 wrote:

Exactly. Variables include what questions are asked, how they are asked, who is asked, how many are asked, etc.

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EtcumSpiri22-0 wrote:

Exactly. Variables include what questions are asked, how they are asked, who is asked, how many are asked, etc.


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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics Mark Twain said that Disraeli said it. No one has been able to locate where. I don't trust quotations either :fyi:



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This one seems dubious, I'll admit.

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 Post subject: Re: Poll indicates: Most people dont trust polls
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Mrs. Timmy wrote:
This one seems dubious, I'll admit.

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Well, I should hope so. It was Benjamin Franklin, in DAS KAPITAL

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Mrs. Timmy wrote:
Polls are so easy to manipulate, it's ridiculous.


Everything on the face of the Earth is easy to manipulate, especially religion. That does not imply that it is impossible to construct an accurate poll, or that every poll is automatically suspect and completely false, just as the fact that there are a lot of phony, disingenuous Christians doesn't automatically prove the truth of atheism.

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Mrs. Timmy wrote:
Polls are so easy to manipulate, it's ridiculous.


Everything on the face of the Earth is easy to manipulate, especially religion. That does not imply that it is impossible to construct an accurate poll, or that every poll is automatically suspect and completely false, just as the fact that there are a lot of phony, disingenuous Christians doesn't automatically prove the truth of atheism.



I had a course which included the creation of a poll, in grad school.

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 Post subject: Re: Poll indicates: Most people dont trust polls
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Doom wrote:
Mrs. Timmy wrote:
Polls are so easy to manipulate, it's ridiculous.


Everything on the face of the Earth is easy to manipulate, especially religion. That does not imply that it is impossible to construct an accurate poll, or that every poll is automatically suspect and completely false, just as the fact that there are a lot of phony, disingenuous Christians doesn't automatically prove the truth of atheism.


= Polls can be right except when they're not.
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Some lines are just sooo classic that you can see the scene and hear the dialog without clicking on the link.

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