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What's your age range & highest level of education?
18 & under age range 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
19-24 age range 3%  3%  [ 6 ]
25-29 age range 4%  4%  [ 7 ]
30-39 age range 12%  12%  [ 22 ]
40-49 age range 11%  11%  [ 19 ]
50-59 age range 9%  9%  [ 17 ]
60-69 age range 8%  8%  [ 14 ]
70-79 age range 3%  3%  [ 5 ]
80 & Up age range 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
still in high school/home schooled 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
high school dropout 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
GED 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
high school graduate 2%  2%  [ 4 ]
some college/university courses, but haven’t earned a degree yet 11%  11%  [ 19 ]
technical/vocational school 2%  2%  [ 4 ]
Associate Degree 2%  2%  [ 4 ]
Bachelor’s Degree 18%  18%  [ 33 ]
Master’s Degree 6%  6%  [ 10 ]
Doctorate Degree 4%  4%  [ 8 ]
I have two degrees 2%  2%  [ 4 ]
I have three or more degrees 2%  2%  [ 4 ]
Other 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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Wow. Ok. My family yet again differs from many of you. My family did the Florida pre-paid college thing for me. There was no stipulations on where I could go, except for the program limited it to state schools. So FSU, UF, community colleges, etc. The out of state thing came up, and they wished me well but they couldn't afford it so I'd be on my own for that.

I would have started working on getting a scholarship to wherever I wanted to go if they had done the whole "you're gonna go where we want you to go because it's our money." thing. At the end of the day, the degree will shape my life, not theirs. They knew that, and I know it.

But oh well. If it works for you guys, more power to you.


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Considering that most here have done what they can to raise their children as faithful Catholics it makes little sense they would just toss them to the winds of fate at the magical age of 18. I'm sorry that you did not have the same concern shown by your family.


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Considering that most here have done what they can to raise their children as faithful Catholics it makes little sense they would just toss them to the winds of fate at the magical age of 18. I'm sorry that you did not have the same concern shown by your family.


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It was't so much a concern. My parents trusted my judgement. My dad always told me "If you can't make sound decisions for yourself concerning your future, when it comes time for you decide big things like college or joining the military or whatnot, we failed you. What have we done then than only make you have to turn to us like a child? You're a grown a$$ man at that point. Do your thing."

They weren't concerned because they trusted they raised me in a way that I could make sound decisions for myself, based on how they and the rest of our family was raised, not because they didn't care or what not.

But that's not what many people do (I'm now recently realizing). My entire family was raised in a very independant manner. The younger you don't need your parents, the better. Like an eagle kicking the chicks out the nest. Time to fly, get out and good luck.

As you all were. I'm a sore thumb in this conversation, I.E. one is unlike the rest :wink:


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Doesn't matter who's money it is,


Tell me that after you have paid for you child to study, away from home, for 4 years of university - and $120,000 down.


$120,000? Where exactly is that college, on Mars? I got a Phd for less than 1/4 of that.


Texas - Tuition, books, transportation and housing (food) - it all adds up.
Then add currency conversion - at 1 point I was paying an extra 30 cents on the dollar for US bucks.

30k a year all in


My point is that is uber-expensive, and you were paying more since you were a non-resident, you are using that number as a minimum when in fact it is a maximim. It's true that can be expensive but it is nowhere nearas expensive as people think, especially if you go to college in your home state in which case they waive about 3/4 of the tuition.

Some states may be cheap, but mine isn't one of them. In Pennsylvania, tuition for state residents at the state universities is $5804, but by the time you tack on the mandatory fees and room and board you're looking at a range of $11,801 - $20,748. Out of state students pay significantly more.

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It was't so much a concern. My parents trusted my judgement. My dad always told me "If you can't make sound decisions for yourself concerning your future, when it comes time for you decide big things like college or joining the military or whatnot, we failed you. What have we done then than only make you have to turn to us like a child? You're a grown a$$ man at that point. Do your thing."

They weren't concerned because they trusted they raised me in a way that I could make sound decisions for myself, based on how they and the rest of our family was raised, not because they didn't care or what not.

But that's not what many people do (I'm now recently realizing). My entire family was raised in a very independant manner. The younger you don't need your parents, the better. Like an eagle kicking the chicks out the nest. Time to fly, get out and good luck.


If one is raised to be independent, then wouldn't one want to pay one's own way through college? If your parents pay for your college education then it can hardly be said to be similar to an eagle pushing its chicks out of the nest.

I hope that I will be able to trust my children's judgment about where they go to college. But if they make a bad decision, I am not going to enable that decision by throwing money at it. If they want to do their own thing, I don't see why I ought to pay for it.

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It was't so much a concern. My parents trusted my judgement. My dad always told me "If you can't make sound decisions for yourself concerning your future, when it comes time for you decide big things like college or joining the military or whatnot, we failed you. What have we done then than only make you have to turn to us like a child? You're a grown a$$ man at that point. Do your thing."

They weren't concerned because they trusted they raised me in a way that I could make sound decisions for myself, based on how they and the rest of our family was raised, not because they didn't care or what not.

But that's not what many people do (I'm now recently realizing). My entire family was raised in a very independant manner. The younger you don't need your parents, the better. Like an eagle kicking the chicks out the nest. Time to fly, get out and good luck.


If one is raised to be independent, then wouldn't one want to pay one's own way through college? If your parents pay for your college education then it can hardly be said to be similar to an eagle pushing its chicks out of the nest.

I hope that I will be able to trust my children's judgment about where they go to college. But if they make a bad decision, I am not going to enable that decision by throwing money at it. If they want to do their own thing, I don't see why I ought to pay for it.


Fair enough. I'd just have that conversation early enough so that they can begin planning how their going to pay for it, should they take that route. You normally have to start seting up a scholly run as a freshman, so I'd have the conversation around 8th grade. That's what my parents did with me. They told me "4 years goes by quick. THis is where you have to decide what you're doing because it'll take 4 solid years of good grades and good tests scores to get a scholarship if you don't want to use the Florida pre-paid thing we got you..." (not that one shouldn't aim for that anyways.)

The reason they paid for it is common sense. You can't work full time as a kid and put away for college. They did what they could to assist. But they trusted my judgement to do the right thing with it. If I didn't, I'd be punished through the course of life through my actions.

In the end I never ended up using the pre-paid fund. I joined the military and have gotten my degree via the AF and the GI-bill. But it was there for me to use and I could have at any Florida St. school Had I wanted to go to say a private university, I was on my own to earn a scholarship or take out student loans.


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St Veronica wrote:
Considering that most here have done what they can to raise their children as faithful Catholics it makes little sense they would just toss them to the winds of fate at the magical age of 18. I'm sorry that you did not have the same concern shown by your family.


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It was't so much a concern. My parents trusted my judgement. My dad always told me "If you can't make sound decisions for yourself concerning your future, when it comes time for you decide big things like college or joining the military or whatnot, we failed you. What have we done then than only make you have to turn to us like a child? You're a grown a$$ man at that point. Do your thing."

They weren't concerned because they trusted they raised me in a way that I could make sound decisions for myself, based on how they and the rest of our family was raised, not because they didn't care or what not.

But that's not what many people do (I'm now recently realizing). My entire family was raised in a very independant manner. The younger you don't need your parents, the better. Like an eagle kicking the chicks out the nest. Time to fly, get out and good luck.

As you all were. I'm a sore thumb in this conversation, I.E. one is unlike the rest :wink:



Guiding them with decisions about their future is not a sign that their judgment can't be trusted. Neither is it a sign the parents failed to prepare them. The idea that somehow magically at 18 a child is all knowing is inaccurate.

As far as the younger you don't need your parents the better, well heck why not 14, just kick them out and they better be prepared or whatever happens happens right?

I seriously hope if you have children you don't practice what you preach.


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Guiding them with decisions about their future is not a sign that their judgment can't be trusted. Neither is it a sign the parents failed to prepare them. The idea that somehow magically at 18 a child is all knowing is inaccurate.

As far as the younger you don't need your parents the better, well heck why not 14, just kick them out and they better be prepared or whatever happens happens right?

I seriously hope if you have children you don't practice what you preach.


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I get that. we just have vastly different ideas of what "guiding" is. Guiding in the sense that you mean..I think...ended in my house when I entered HS. My parents became advisors at that point, letting me make a vast majority of my own decisions. When I made bad ones and I failed, they stepped in and taught me where I went wrong and how to correct it. They did this to get me used to living the consequences of my actions and learning to really make sound decisions. Once I graduated, yes they very much stepped completely out of the spotlight and told me "you know our number. Call us if you need something" and went completely hands off.

If I have children I will raise them the way I was raised, and my parents were raised, and my grandparents were raised, and all my aunts and uncles.

P.S. it's funny you mention why not 14. I assure you if it was possible, my family would have raised us to be independent by then. It's how it's been done over the generations in my family. Could be because of the poor harsh background everyone came from. Could be the Rivera's are a bunch of weirdo's. I dunno.


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Texas

I think I spotted your problem. :fyi:


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Move away from there!

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I recently joined the 40-49 crowd. I have a B.S. in education, but didn't use it very long. I went into insurance and finance instead. About seven years ago I left the workforce entirely to be a stay-at-home mom. Needless to say my teaching and securities licenses have long since expired. When I go back to work it'll be like starting over again and not looking forward to it :( .

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I've always found it ironic that they call it a "BS" degree.

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VegasCane wrote:
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Guiding them with decisions about their future is not a sign that their judgment can't be trusted. Neither is it a sign the parents failed to prepare them. The idea that somehow magically at 18 a child is all knowing is inaccurate.

As far as the younger you don't need your parents the better, well heck why not 14, just kick them out and they better be prepared or whatever happens happens right?

I seriously hope if you have children you don't practice what you preach.


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I get that. we just have vastly different ideas of what "guiding" is. Guiding in the sense that you mean..I think...ended in my house when I entered HS. My parents became advisors at that point, letting me make a vast majority of my own decisions. When I made bad ones and I failed, they stepped in and taught me where I went wrong and how to correct it. They did this to get me used to living the consequences of my actions and learning to really make sound decisions. Once I graduated, yes they very much stepped completely out of the spotlight and told me "you know our number. Call us if you need something" and went completely hands off.

If I have children I will raise them the way I was raised, and my parents were raised, and my grandparents were raised, and all my aunts and uncles.

P.S. it's funny you mention why not 14. I assure you if it was possible, my family would have raised us to be independent by then. It's how it's been done over the generations in my family. Could be because of the poor harsh background everyone came from. Could be the Rivera's are a bunch of weirdo's. I dunno.



And just because your parents did it does not mean you have to do it.

Parents giving advice and guiding (you can use whatever word you want) never ends. That's why they call us parents. Part of our job is to be there for our kids no matter how old they are. You don't think my kids don't call me and ask my advice on issues? While they are being raised in the home they were given opportunity to make mistakes and live with consequences, being taught how to make decisions and morals/values to use as a guide to making those decisions.

The idea that just because they hit 18 means they should just be tossed out to fend for themselves is just wrong.


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Guiding them with decisions about their future is not a sign that their judgment can't be trusted. Neither is it a sign the parents failed to prepare them. The idea that somehow magically at 18 a child is all knowing is inaccurate.

As far as the younger you don't need your parents the better, well heck why not 14, just kick them out and they better be prepared or whatever happens happens right?

I seriously hope if you have children you don't practice what you preach.


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I get that. we just have vastly different ideas of what "guiding" is. Guiding in the sense that you mean..I think...ended in my house when I entered HS. My parents became advisors at that point, letting me make a vast majority of my own decisions. When I made bad ones and I failed, they stepped in and taught me where I went wrong and how to correct it. They did this to get me used to living the consequences of my actions and learning to really make sound decisions. Once I graduated, yes they very much stepped completely out of the spotlight and told me "you know our number. Call us if you need something" and went completely hands off.

If I have children I will raise them the way I was raised, and my parents were raised, and my grandparents were raised, and all my aunts and uncles.

P.S. it's funny you mention why not 14. I assure you if it was possible, my family would have raised us to be independent by then. It's how it's been done over the generations in my family. Could be because of the poor harsh background everyone came from. Could be the Rivera's are a bunch of weirdo's. I dunno.



And just because your parents did it does not mean you have to do it.

Parents giving advice and guiding (you can use whatever word you want) never ends. That's why they call us parents. Part of our job is to be there for our kids no matter how old they are. You don't think my kids don't call me and ask my advice on issues? While they are being raised in the home they were given opportunity to make mistakes and live with consequences, being taught how to make decisions and morals/values to use as a guide to making those decisions.

The idea that just because they hit 18 means they should just be tossed out to fend for themselves is just wrong.


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