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 Post subject: iPhones and other Touchscreens are Discriminatory
PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:53 am 
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Yes, they discriminate agaist those of us with Hyperhidrosis.

I've had it since I was a baby, I will have it all my life. I sweat.

When I was a child doing schoolwork, I had to keep a folded sheet of paper under my hand or my sweat would soak the paper as I wrote. If hand-holding during the Our Father was manditory, I'd cry because it is like a trigger for me, the minute the Our Father begins, I sweat.

At home, I can keep the temp very cool and keep my hands dry. In public, I am pretty much always sweating.

I cannot use a touch screen. Frankly, I care to understand why people want to use them.

Wonder, does the iPhone have an app for THAT?

Guess they are not heightists, they ARE driists.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:11 am 
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Truthfully, I have no idea what the point of a touchscreen is except that they are ostensibly 'cool'.

It is interesting that touchscreen technology has developed to the degree that it has, it is also fairly pointless, an example of innovation solely for its own sake rather than to solve some kind of problem or difficulty.
And the other thing is....touchscreens break...after a while....they lose their sensitivity and just stop working. At which point, you're basically screwed. Don't have that problem with keyboards.

Also, with a touchscreen keyboard, there is no tactile response to your actions, so you never really know whether or not you actually pushed the thing you are trying to push.

Touchscreens seem to me to be a big solution in search of a problem.

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I do not like using a Touchpad as the pointing/clicking device. I also have a Blackberry which has little buttons and a track ball/clicker. Normally, I do not like Track balls, but the setup on the Blackberry is okay.

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 Post subject: Re: iPhones and other Touchscreens are Discriminatory
PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:55 am 
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Wahhhhhaaahhh. I miss my blackberry.

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Eh, I have rather sweaty hands myself, but touch screens have never been an issue. And Doom, touch screens are inherently more natural and allow for more varied control than fixing to a keyboard does. I've caught myself touching my laptop screen on occasion simply because it feels "more right" to do so than using the keyboard.

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 Post subject: Re: iPhones and other Touchscreens are Discriminatory
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Touch screens are more flexible, but frankly keyboards are more user-friendly. But Apple has never been about what is user-friendly, but about what looks cool.

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 Post subject: Re: iPhones and other Touchscreens are Discriminatory
PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:52 pm 
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Pepsuber wrote:
Touch screens are more flexible, but frankly keyboards are more user-friendly. But Apple has never been about what is user-friendly, but about what looks cool.


True dat, if their goal was to be user friendly, they never would have ditched the Apple II for the Mac, and before anyone suggests otherwise, let me remind you that there approximately one billion former Apple II users who switched to DOS and then finally Windows, OS/2 or Linux because they found the Mac frustrating as hell to work with, the Apple II WAS easier to use, at least at first.

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 Post subject: Re: iPhones and other Touchscreens are Discriminatory
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1HCaAC wrote:
I do not like using a Touchpad as the pointing/clicking device. I also have a Blackberry which has little buttons and a track ball/clicker. Normally, I do not like Track balls, but the setup on the Blackberry is okay.


Trackballs are annoying as hell, but the benefit of a trackball over a touchscreen is that if the trackball gets stuck, it can be easily repaired or replaced, and a replacement trackball costs only $8, trying replacing a touchscreen for that little...

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 Post subject: Re: iPhones and other Touchscreens are Discriminatory
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Doom wrote:
Truthfully, I have no idea what the point of a touchscreen is except that they are ostensibly 'cool'.

It is interesting that touchscreen technology has developed to the degree that it has, it is also fairly pointless, an example of innovation solely for its own sake rather than to solve some kind of problem or difficulty.
And the other thing is....touchscreens break...after a while....they lose their sensitivity and just stop working. At which point, you're basically screwed. Don't have that problem with keyboards.

Also, with a touchscreen keyboard, there is no tactile response to your actions, so you never really know whether or not you actually pushed the thing you are trying to push.

Touchscreens seem to me to be a big solution in search of a problem.


A touchscreen requires no mechanical parts and doesn't wear. You can't spill a Coke on a touchscreen and make it sticky so the keys don't work (you might short the device, but that's another story). A touchscreen requires less space to manipulate hardware - think about it, a keyboard takes up additional space on a phone.

So fewer parts, that don't wear, are very robust, and doesn't take additional space are just a few good reasons a touchsreen is superior to a keyboard. But, I imagine overall the real reason is its cheaper to produce a phone/device with a touchscreen....and you can still charge more for the device that costs less to produce.

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 Post subject: Re: iPhones and other Touchscreens are Discriminatory
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Can't you just poke it with a stick, I mean, stylus?

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Bombadil wrote:
Can't you just poke it with a stick, I mean, stylus?


A stylus? Man, that' sooooo 2005. :roll:










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Bombadil wrote:
Can't you just poke it with a stick, I mean, stylus?

It has to be a conductive stylus of some sort because of the way touchscreens work.

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 Post subject: Re: iPhones and other Touchscreens are Discriminatory
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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Can't you just poke it with a stick, I mean, stylus?

It has to be a conductive stylus of some sort because of the way touchscreens work.

Oh neat! Fancy gold plated stylus! Wow!

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 Post subject: Re: iPhones and other Touchscreens are Discriminatory
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If you spill Coke on your phone you are screwed anyway because 'liquid damage' voids. Your warranty.

Of course the real question is 'why do you have liquid around your phone in the first place?' That's stupid.

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 Post subject: Re: iPhones and other Touchscreens are Discriminatory
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Doom wrote:
If you spill Coke on your phone you are screwed anyway because 'liquid damage' voids. Your warranty.

Of course the real question is 'why do you have liquid around your phone in the first place?' That's stupid.

I don't think that is reasonable. Your phone is going to be with you practically everywhere you go, you can't keep liquid away from yourself at all times.

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If you spill Coke on your phone you are screwed anyway because 'liquid damage' voids. Your warranty.

Of course the real question is 'why do you have liquid around your phone in the first place?' That's stupid.


On my desk right now - cup of coffee, two cell phones, two land line phones.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:42 am 
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If you spill Coke on your phone you are screwed anyway because 'liquid damage' voids. Your warranty.

Of course the real question is 'why do you have liquid around your phone in the first place?' That's stupid.



I have a sister who accidentally dropped her first iphone in the toilet. ::):

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My daughter set her phone on the deck railing so she would not get it wet by taking it near the pool. Good idea.

SHe forgot about it when she went inside. Sudden thunderstorm. Bad idea.

It is sitting in a container of rice.

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Son's toddler daughter threw his iPhone in the backyard swimming pool. He dried it out thoroughly and it stills works.

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 Post subject: Re: iPhones and other Touchscreens are Discriminatory
PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:31 pm 
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I hate the touch screen. I had one on my last phone. When I was up for a new phone I opted to "downgrade" to get a phone with a regular keyboard.

I use the phone a lot when driving (I know, bad). But I do. With the touch screen I could never tell if I was hitting the right "buttons". But with the keyboard I can feel my way around the buttons. I can dial by feel and still keep my eyes on the road.

I could also never use the scroll function correctly on the touch screen. :verymad:

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