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 Post subject: Chesterton for a non-Christian
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What works of GKC don't explicitly refer to the Christian faith and can be enjoyed by a person of another or no religion?

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 Post subject: Re: Chesterton for a non-Christian
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Why does not mentioning Christianity relevant to the enjoyability factor for non-Christians? How bigoted are the people you're thinking about? If they're so hateful they can't enjoy a work by someone who is explicitly Christian, they won't enjoy Chesterton, or much of anything else. Man Who Was Thursday, like much of his fiction, doesn't do much explicit Christian stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: Chesterton for a non-Christian
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Why does not mentioning Christianity relevant to the enjoyability factor for non-Christians? How bigoted are the people you're thinking about? If they're so hateful they can't enjoy a work by someone who is explicitly Christian, they won't enjoy Chesterton, or much of anything else. Man Who Was Thursday, like much of his fiction, doesn't do much explicit Christian stuff.



Maybe one of the Ignatius Press collected volumes of the Illustrated London News columns. If one stumbles over some mention of Christianity in one of those (or any of the books of collected essays similar) one can just turn the page and read the next column.

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 Post subject: Re: Chesterton for a non-Christian
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Why does not mentioning Christianity relevant to the enjoyability factor for non-Christians? How bigoted are the people you're thinking about? If they're so hateful they can't enjoy a work by someone who is explicitly Christian, they won't enjoy Chesterton, or much of anything else. Man Who Was Thursday, like much of his fiction, doesn't do much explicit Christian stuff.

I don't see why you're getting so heated up. I'm asking for something that a non Christian can mostly agree with. Witty observations about the society, perhaps.

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 Post subject: Re: Chesterton for a non-Christian
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:scratch: Heated up?

Why would a non-Christian mostly agree with Chesterton when he's just making witty observations about society that don't explicitly mention Christianity? Suppose the non-Christian is some kind of socialist. Well, then, he'd disagree with Chesterton's witty observations. Suppose the non-Christian is a eugenicist. Suppose the non-Christian is a capitalist. Etc.

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gherkin wrote:
:scratch: Heated up?

Why would a non-Christian mostly agree with Chesterton when he's just making witty observations about society that don't explicitly mention Christianity? Suppose the non-Christian is some kind of socialist. Well, then, he'd disagree with Chesterton's witty observations. Suppose the non-Christian is a eugenicist. Suppose the non-Christian is a capitalist. Etc.


Unlikely the non-Christian is an Imperialist, I imagine.

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 Post subject: Re: Chesterton for a non-Christian
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Consider him some sort of noble pagan. Knows many things that can be found by reason. But not ready yet for explicit calls to conversion to Christianity.

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 Post subject: Re: Chesterton for a non-Christian
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gherkin wrote:
:scratch: Heated up?

Why would a non-Christian mostly agree with Chesterton when he's just making witty observations about society that don't explicitly mention Christianity? Suppose the non-Christian is some kind of socialist. Well, then, he'd disagree with Chesterton's witty observations. Suppose the non-Christian is a eugenicist. Suppose the non-Christian is a capitalist. Etc.


Unlikely the non-Christian is an Imperialist, I imagine.

I doubt that. Everyone's an imperialist today. What's more imperialistic than spreading progressivism--a western invention!--throughout the globe? Ditto for capitalism. We're not imperialists in the old honest way the Brits were back in the day, I guess.

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 Post subject: Re: Chesterton for a non-Christian
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Consider him some sort of noble pagan. Knows many things that can be found by reason. But not ready yet for explicit calls to conversion to Christianity.

Thursday. :fyi: Napoleon of Notting Hill.

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 Post subject: Re: Chesterton for a non-Christian
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gherkin wrote:
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gherkin wrote:
:scratch: Heated up?

Why would a non-Christian mostly agree with Chesterton when he's just making witty observations about society that don't explicitly mention Christianity? Suppose the non-Christian is some kind of socialist. Well, then, he'd disagree with Chesterton's witty observations. Suppose the non-Christian is a eugenicist. Suppose the non-Christian is a capitalist. Etc.


Unlikely the non-Christian is an Imperialist, I imagine.


I doubt that. Everyone's an imperialist today. What's more imperialistic than spreading progressivism--a western invention!--throughout the globe? Ditto for capitalism. We're not imperialists in the old honest way the Brits were back in the day, I guess.



Which is what GKC Would have been writing about.

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 Post subject: Re: Chesterton for a non-Christian
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GKC wrote:
gherkin wrote:
GKC wrote:
gherkin wrote:
:scratch: Heated up?

Why would a non-Christian mostly agree with Chesterton when he's just making witty observations about society that don't explicitly mention Christianity? Suppose the non-Christian is some kind of socialist. Well, then, he'd disagree with Chesterton's witty observations. Suppose the non-Christian is a eugenicist. Suppose the non-Christian is a capitalist. Etc.


Unlikely the non-Christian is an Imperialist, I imagine.


I doubt that. Everyone's an imperialist today. What's more imperialistic than spreading progressivism--a western invention!--throughout the globe? Ditto for capitalism. We're not imperialists in the old honest way the Brits were back in the day, I guess.



Which is what GKC Would have been writing about.

Surely. If you're saying today's imperialists won't recognize themselves as equally targeted by his attacks on imperialism, I guess you're right. Still...they're imperialists.

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 Post subject: Re: Chesterton for a non-Christian
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Better imperialism than gherkinism!

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 Post subject: Re: Chesterton for a non-Christian
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Better imperialism than gherkinism!



Difference?

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