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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:24 pm 
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From what I've heard about this book, it came out before The DaVinci Code and is "pro Catholic" as it pits the Vatican against a secret society. Is this accurate or is it full of anti Catholic stuff?

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It's another mediocre novel. Same quality of writing and plot as da Vinci. It is a bit more interesting since he takes the reader on a tour of various historic sites in Rome. I know people who have gone to Rome and used the book as a guide. They report that all the places are real and the internals are as depicted in the book. I can't vouch for the thoroughness of their investigation.

I didn't see anything anti-Catholic about it. But I didn't see anything anti-Catholic about DaVinci, either.


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I don't think you would find the satanic bible anti-catholic either being the moral relativist that you are.

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I don't think you would find the satanic bible anti-catholic either being the moral relativist that you are.

:P

It's a good book............the plot is as little screwy..........ending was great though!!!

Not to anti-catholic by the way.

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Nonsensical book with a nonsensical plot. Your IQ will drop after reading this tripe.


As for it being supposedly "pro-Catholic", at one point Dan the ignoramus describes Bernini's "Ecstasy of St. Teresa" as an orgasmic sexual encounter between the saint and the angel with the arrow.

Need I say more?

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HORRIBLE book, anti-catholicism aside. it was difficult to read because the quality of writing is so low. avoid this book.

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tobit wrote:
I don't think you would find the satanic bible anti-catholic either being the moral relativist that you are.


I haven't read the Satanic Bible. Have you? What does it say about Catholicism?


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(Coming from out of the blue, here.)

Ken, are you a relativist?

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Max Majestic wrote:
(Coming from out of the blue, here.)

Ken, are you a relativist?


Of course he's not. A relativist needs something to be relative to and he's pretty much rejected anything specific, so I guess you could more accurately call him an 'non-specificist', or more colloquially - nothing special.

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This is my take on the novel: it's a fun read but you must take it with about a pound or two of salt. Brown's research is, well, iffy, to say the least (i.e. a BBC reporter outside the conclave announces, minutes after the white smoke appears, that the new pope was elected unanimously, the main character claims that the Eucharist is derived from ancient AZTEC rituals (huh?) and I won't even go into the whole anti-matter thing. I enjoyed reading the book, but it's the kind of trashy reading you do while lounging on the beach, nothing more.

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p.s. My father has a PhD in nuclear physics and did his doctoral work at CERN. He LOVED the DaVinci Code but threw this one across the room after reading about 20 pages. He's convinced that Brown is complete idiot and all the reviewers who rave about his "impeccable research" or "intelligent writing" are themselves dumb as rocks.

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p.s. My father has a PhD in nuclear physics and did his doctoral work at CERN. He LOVED the DaVinci Code but threw this one across the room after reading about 20 pages. He's convinced that Brown is complete idiot and all the reviewers who rave about his "impeccable research" or "intelligent writing" are themselves dumb as rocks.


Expect a call from the Rock and Stone Anti-Defamation League any minute now.

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Tom Terrific wrote:
Max Majestic wrote:
(Coming from out of the blue, here.)

Ken, are you a relativist?


Of course he's not. A relativist needs something to be relative to and he's pretty much rejected anything specific, so I guess you could more accurately call him an 'non-specificist', or more colloquially - nothing special.


Thanks. That's really special.


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Expect a call from the Rock and Stone Anti-Defamation League any minute now.


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Expect a call from the Rock and Stone Anti-Defamation League any minute now.


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It was a joke. Kinda like "saying Dan Brown is as dumb as a rock is insulting to rocks"....that sorta thing.

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:DOH!

Sorry, it's been a looong week.

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Yoga wrote:
Tom Terrific wrote:
Max Majestic wrote:
(Coming from out of the blue, here.)

Ken, are you a relativist?


Of course he's not. A relativist needs something to be relative to and he's pretty much rejected anything specific, so I guess you could more accurately call him an 'non-specificist', or more colloquially - nothing special.


Thanks. That's really special.


For a 'special' person, too.

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Tom Terrific wrote:
Yoga wrote:
Tom Terrific wrote:
Max Majestic wrote:
(Coming from out of the blue, here.)

Ken, are you a relativist?


Of course he's not. A relativist needs something to be relative to and he's pretty much rejected anything specific, so I guess you could more accurately call him an 'non-specificist', or more colloquially - nothing special.


Thanks. That's really special.


For a 'special' person, too.


Could you tell us what a relativist is?


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I have heard that Italy is very famous, maybe the most for their sorcery/magic of the really bad stuff. Maybe even in Rome.


But, are his books meant to be taken as fact or just something realistic that isn't true?

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I didn't see anything anti-Catholic about it. But I didn't see anything anti-Catholic about DaVinci, either.


That's because you are anti-Catholic...

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I didn't see anything anti-Catholic about it. But I didn't see anything anti-Catholic about DaVinci, either.


That's because you are anti-Catholic...


Care to back that up?


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