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I would be interested to hear from the different people on this board what books they are currently reading/just finished.




Currently:

Nichols, Aidan. The Shape of Catholic Theology
(This is in a line of books on theological method, which is my main focus right now. The books below are a sort of 'side bar' to that study, which has taken me through Dulles' Craft of Theology, Ratzinger's Principles of Catholic Theology and Nature and Mission of Theology, and a few others).

Just Read:

Ratzinger. Called to Communion
Ratzinger. Meaning of Christian Brotherhood
Allen, John. The Rise of Benedict XVI: The Inside Story of How the Pope Was Elected and Where He Will Take The Catholic Church


Since Ratzinger was just elected Pope, I have been trying to read, on the side, some of the biographies and all of his work in English (in print, out of print). There are only a couple, now, that I don't have.

Called To Communion is described by Benedict himself as a "primer of Catholic ecclesiology" (foreward, 9), and I would submit that he is successful in doing so. By no means an exhasitive treatment, this "primer" will do well as an introduction, beyond mere catechetical works, for those interested in ecclesiology. Ratzinger is "... along with Henri de Lubac, one of the first Catholic thinkers to adopt a full-scale, systematically ellaborated, 'eucharistic ecclesiology'," (Nichols, Thought of Benedict XVI: An Introduction to the Theology of Joseph Ratzinger, 48.). This "eucharistic" or "communio ecclesiology" is a premise that can be found throughout all of his work, but particularily in Called to Communion and Pilgrim Fellowship of Faith. It is a short read, only 160pgs. Anyone looking for something deep might be dissapointed with this book, for it is a compilation of three seperate lectures that he gave to bishops in South America at a conference, hence they lack a complete thesis and can be redundant. Also, no index and scarce footnotes.

The Meaning of Christian Brotherhood was an interesting read because it was one of his older works, first published in 1960. I would be interested to see if anyone else who has read it notices much difference between this older work and his newer books. The book is very short (only 100 pages), but a much deeper read than Called to Communion. The first part is a more philosophical reflection on the history of the meaning of "brotherhood" through Plato and the Stoics, and then on through the Old Testament period, from the mere "Hebrew" period to the formation of the "Jewish" religion, and then into the Apostolic and Post Apostolic interpretations until finally resting on man's brotherhood as finding "climax" within the Triune God. Very worth reading. Anyone familiar with "Hahnisms" will find where Hahn got many of his "ism's" in this book--no wonder he was asked to write the introduction to it.

I could say a lot about t he John Allen Jr biography, [/i]Rise of Benedict, and because I could say a lot I am going to wait on that. In short, it is VERY good and I would recommend it to everyone who wants a more detailed discussion of the John Paul funeral, the Conclave, and Benedict XVI. As for justifiable reservations about Allen (a reporter for the National Catholic Reporter[/i]), this is one of the things that I would like to talk about. He seems to have undergone a sort of "conversion" (his own word) and I am very impressed with his writing skills, and the truly "inside" information you get through his works. More for later.




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The Annals of Imperial Rome, by Gaius Tacitus

and

Confessio, by St. Augustine.

(I just finished Guilliver's Travels; don't particularly see why its considered a kid's book since the gerund "whoring" appears many times).


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Ratzinger, Joseph Cardinal. Co-Workers of the Truth: Meditations for Every Day of the Year. Still reading for the day specified. Today, he is talking about the name of Peter as "rock."

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Just finished:
Introduction to Christianity, Ratzinger
Nature and Grace, Rahner

Re-reading:
Iota Unum, Amerio
The Mill on the Floss, Eliot

Trying to read:
The Nature of the Gods, Cicero

And I'm always reading and re-reading Denzinger. An obsession, I guess. Recently, I also read The Changing Face of the Priesthood by Cozzens: not good.


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Caleb, what did you think of Iota Unum?

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I am a babe in the theology department compared to some of you, but here goes:

Crossing the Threshold of Hope by Pope John Paul II (I picked this up for $1 at a church yard sale last fall and never read it)

The Glories of Mary by Liguori

The Incarnation, Birth, and Infancy of Jesus Christ by Liguori (actually I will start this once I finish JPII's book, which should be today)

City of God by St. Augustine (will be starting this one on my vacation next week)

Sitting on my bookshelf are about 1/2 dozen or so other books, such as Chesterton, Sheed, Gibbons, and Jurgens (I already started that one, but have yet to finish it) that I will tackle after the ones above are read.

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Caleb, what did you think of Iota Unum?

Where do I start? It's the best book I've read on the Church after the council. Amerio is critical of relativism, subjectivism, and humanism, and he shows these traits in the post-conciliar writings (of ecclesial conferences and private theologians) that try to appropriate 'the spirit of the council' for their own ends. At the same time, Amerio unanimously defends the magesterial records of the pontificates of John XXIII, Paul VI, and JPII, but he doesn't hesitate to criticize Paul VI for his unwillingness to impose papal authority. Really, this book gave me a great appreciation for Paul VI because Amerio portrays him almost as if he were a classic tragic hero, mighty in his convictions but tormented by a few small, but devestating flaws: not in orthodox doctrine, but in personality and governance.

There are some weak parts of Iota Unum. The section on feminism, for example, is a little superficial, I think. Interestingly, Ratzinger appears in the book several times and always seems to be at odds with the unorthodox changes that have occured.

Above all this, I think Amerio's definition of the Church is one of the best aspects of the book. By using a consistent definition of the Church, Amerio's writing comes across as objective commentary rather than petty backlash. This is especially true because Amerio often raises other periods in the Church's history, like the pontificate of Pius IX for example, to make parallels with today's dilemmas.

Matthew just recommended Guissepe Siri's Gethsemane to me, and since I haven't read it, I can't compare Amerio to Siri. But along with "The Ottaviani Intervention," I don't hesitate to recommend Iota Unum. Really, it's a monumental classic.


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I am currently reading ...
"How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization" by Thomas E. Woods Jr
"Salvation Is from the Jews" by Roy H. Schoeman

It takes a LONG time for me to read a book. I am lucky to finish 5 a year. I read tons of debates, articles and essays though. :)

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I haven't read it, but I've heard "Salvation is From the Jews" is a dreadful book as it promotes the Judaizing heresy, even though the author is a convert.

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I am just finishing up Creative Fidelity: Weighing and Interpreting Documents of the Magisterium by Francis A. Sullivan.


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just finished

The Blessed Virgin Mary, Our Queen, Our Mother , Our Life, Our Sweetness, and Our Hope excerpted from The Glories of Mary

before that was There Are No Accidents In All Things Trust in God

http://www.catholiccompany.com/product_ ... fm?ID=4842

am still trying to make my way through THE IMITATION OF THE SACRED HEART OF JESUS

http://www.catholictreasures.com/cartdescrip/10319.html

and Dark Night of the Soul
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http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/saints/darknite.htm

will probably start The Prophets and our Times for some "light reading

http://www.marianland.com/proph007.html

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The Black Company by Glen Cook
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I haven't read it, but I've heard "Salvation is From the Jews" is a dreadful book as it promotes the Judaizing heresy, even though the author is a convert.
Thanks for pointing that out ... Is this what you are referring to? Judaizers in the Catholic Church - An Analysis of the Ministries of David Moss and Roy Schoeman By Robert A. Sungenis

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The Catechism of the Catholic Church (re-read)

The Bible (Douay Rheims, I cycle through translations. This is like the 13th front to cover read through)

Rhetoric- Aristotle (reading parts that I missed in school)

Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma- Ludwig Ott (attempting to read cover to cover)

I just finished Canticle of Leibowitz

I am also slowly reading through various essays of Dietrich von Hildebrand in the Charitable Anathema

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I haven't read it, but I've heard "Salvation is From the Jews" is a dreadful book as it promotes the Judaizing heresy, even though the author is a convert.

Really? That would be suprising to me, seeing as even the NOR had ads for it

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Pro Ecclesia Dei wrote:
seanie wrote:
I haven't read it, but I've heard "Salvation is From the Jews" is a dreadful book as it promotes the Judaizing heresy, even though the author is a convert.

Really? That would be suprising to me, seeing as even the NOR had ads for it

The only negative review I found is from CultureWars, and even that is mostly praise at first. They attack it:

"Schoeman deals with the first half of the equation but not the second. Since the Catholic Church is now Israel, Jews can only find their completion as Jews by becoming Catholics. This much is in Schoeman's book. The converse of that statement, however, does not get expressed. The Jews who reject Christ now prepare the way for the coming of the anti-Christ every bit as much as the faithful Jews prepared the way for the coming of the real Christ. "

In other words, they attack it for being incomplete. At the same time, while there is some truth in their criticisms perhaps, but statements like "The Holocaust is the latest excuse for continuing the tradition of Jewish blasphemy." are a bit extreme to say the least. And apparently, Schoeman even attacks the Talmud, he just does not go far enough...

http://www.culturewars.com/2004/Schoeman.html

Even with all its vitriol and views on Jewish conspiracies (Puritan-Jewish alliance is a new one to me), even it does not claim the book judaizes.

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I'm reading Volume II of Frederick Copleston's nine volume History of Philosophy. Before that, Aristotle, by Sir David Ross. The only problem I have is that the Greek in the Copleston isn't transliterated. I'm learning the Greek alphabet perforce.

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caleb wrote:
bonaventure wrote:
Caleb, what did you think of Iota Unum?

Where do I start? It's the best book I've read on the Church after the council. Amerio is critical of relativism, subjectivism, and humanism, and he shows these traits in the post-conciliar writings (of ecclesial conferences and private theologians) that try to appropriate 'the spirit of the council' for their own ends. At the same time, Amerio unanimously defends the magesterial records of the pontificates of John XXIII, Paul VI, and JPII, but he doesn't hesitate to criticize Paul VI for his unwillingness to impose papal authority. Really, this book gave me a great appreciation for Paul VI because Amerio portrays him almost as if he were a classic tragic hero, mighty in his convictions but tormented by a few small, but devestating flaws: not in orthodox doctrine, but in personality and governance.

There are some weak parts of Iota Unum. The section on feminism, for example, is a little superficial, I think. Interestingly, Ratzinger appears in the book several times and always seems to be at odds with the unorthodox changes that have occured.

Above all this, I think Amerio's definition of the Church is one of the best aspects of the book. By using a consistent definition of the Church, Amerio's writing comes across as objective commentary rather than petty backlash. This is especially true because Amerio often raises other periods in the Church's history, like the pontificate of Pius IX for example, to make parallels with today's dilemmas.

Matthew just recommended Guissepe Siri's Gethsemane to me, and since I haven't read it, I can't compare Amerio to Siri. But along with "The Ottaviani Intervention," I don't hesitate to recommend Iota Unum. Really, it's a monumental classic.


Thanks Caleb. I bought it awile ago but I have only been able to flip through sections of it. Your comments were similar to my first impressions. Hopfully I can read the whole thing soon.

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Pro Ecclesia Dei wrote:
seanie wrote:
I haven't read it, but I've heard "Salvation is From the Jews" is a dreadful book as it promotes the Judaizing heresy, even though the author is a convert.

Really? That would be suprising to me, seeing as even the NOR had ads for it
NOR also reviewed the book. It was also reviewed by Alice von Hildebrand for Latin Mass Magazine at least according to Schoeman's web site for the book.

In fact, this is the first I have heard there was some criticism of it. I will read through what I linked above when I get a chance. The criticism may be valid but I think dreadful is likely going too far. From what I have read in reviews, it is clear much of what Schoeman puts forth is speculation on his part and if he is criticizing the speculation portion, I cannot see much of a point.

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This is the first criticism of the Schoeman book that I have heard also. I had a friend say it was good, but I haven't seen it myself.

Were you possibly thinking about another book Seanie?

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