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Probably not in the way you believe it.


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would you like to enlighten us as to what you believe?

Not really.

tough to defend undefensible beliefs huh?

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There are several possibilities.


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would you like to enlighten us as to what those are?

I've already pointed out these possibilities before (in this thread, I think). It's tiresome to keep having to repeat myself. I'm just pointing out that there are other possibilities.

but you don't find it "tiresome" to keep repeating over and over your at odds with the Church beliefs about hell and sinfulness

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Lonevoice wrote:
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PED, could you please answer my question?

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They still go to hell, torn. Though they suffer no pain.

But they never ever suffer torture.


Are you saying it's possible for a soul to go to hell and not suffer any pain?

YES!!!!

It is even possible to have natural bliss in hell... but this would be for those who die in original sin only... any actual sin on the soul when you die would cause suffering


I don't get it. What would be the point of having Hell then. Why not let them into heaven?

Understand that before my conversion I was an Evangelical(S. Bapt) and I have(or had) rather clearly defined ideas about Hell. Perhaps it's just my ignorance, but I don't understand how one can have eternal bliss in hell, invincible ignorance or not. Could you reference this for me in the CCC, or in the writings of the early Fathers?

Thanks and God Bless!


PED is talking about limbo here. Not the limbo of the Fathers but the LIMBUS INFANTIUM. The word hell used to have a much broader meaning (we used to have "He descended into hell" in the Creed) than it has today.

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