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 Post subject: Did Adam have the Holy Spirit?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:54 pm 
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Title says all.

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 Post subject: Re: Did Adam have the Holy Spirit?
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Yes.

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 Post subject: Re: Did Adam have the Holy Spirit?
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Greetings;

No.

He was factory issued,no accessories;no back seat driver-yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Did Adam have the Holy Spirit?
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Council of Trent, Session V, Decree on Original Sin:

"1. If any one does not confess that the first man, Adam, when he had transgressed the commandment of God in Paradise immediately lost, the holiness and justice in which he had been constituted ...."

Like all the canons of Trent, this is carefully worded because there was (and is) a dispute over whether Adam was created with sanctifying grace (the majority opinion) or received it at some point thereafter. But he did have it at some point.

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 Post subject: Re: Did Adam have the Holy Spirit?
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Thank you.

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 Post subject: Re: Did Adam have the Holy Spirit?
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St Augustine says that, when Genesis says God breathed life to man, it's not a reference to the Holy Spirit. How does that come into play here?

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 Post subject: Re: Did Adam have the Holy Spirit?
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It doesn't. Natural (biological) life is not a gift of the Spirit.

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