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 Post subject: The Significance of "Unum Baptisma"
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"Confíteor unum baptísma in remissiónem peccatórum."
-I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins - Nicene Creed cf. Eph 4:5

Why did the Council Fathers and scripture emphasis that there is one baptism?

Does this rule out the contemporary theories that there are three possible baptisms: ex voto, blood, and sacramental?

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 Post subject: Re: The Significance of "Unum Baptisma"
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It means that there is only one baptismal rite, no matter who does it; or it means that a given person can be baptized only once. The second is more likely (IMHO) the intended reading, but I'm away from home and have no references to check.

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 Post subject: Re: The Significance of "Unum Baptisma"
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I thought it meant that other baptisms (John's, etc) did not by themselves forgive sins.

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 Post subject: Re: The Significance of "Unum Baptisma"
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I think it is the part about the "for the remission of sins" is the important part, as it affirms baptismal regeneration.

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 Post subject: Re: The Significance of "Unum Baptisma"
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Pohle/Preuss mention it in passing when talking of the requirement that the recipient of baptism must not already be baptized, although they don't mention the Creed. Still, that supports me second theory.

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 Post subject: Re: The Significance of "Unum Baptisma"
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"Confíteor unum baptísma in remissiónem peccatórum."
-I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins - Nicene Creed cf. Eph 4:5

Why did the Council Fathers and scripture emphasis that there is one baptism?

Does this rule out the contemporary theories that there are three possible baptisms: ex voto, blood, and sacramental?

There is only one baptism, the sacrament.

So called baptism of blood or ex voto are not other baptisms. First, they are not sacraments, but second they impart the sacramental graces of the one baptism (the res tantum, not the seal). The graces all belong to the sacrament, which is imperfectly participated by the one uniting his heart to God through martyrdom or perfect love.

This is probably my number one beef with the Baltimore Catechism

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 Post subject: Re: The Significance of "Unum Baptisma"
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