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 Post subject: Re: Archbshp claims Pope Francis withdrew sanctions on McCar
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:28 am 
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It is most definitely war. Either Francis, his fake priests, and pedo mafia need to go willingly, or they need to be forcibly removed. They cannot stay. There is literally no other way for the Church to move forward unless these frauds are expunged.


It is not possible to 'forcibly remove' a Pope, except, I suppose, by assassination, and I hope that is not what you are suggesting.

If that was what I was saying, you would not have to ask for clarification.

There are other ways, obviously. Such a person CANNOT lead the Church, nor should these fake priests be allowed to remain. Either priests and Catholics who are true to Christ's teachings need to pressure these individuals out, OR they must secede from them. That's it. You're either OK with terrible people leading or your not. You're either OK with what they are doing or you're not. There absolutely cannot be a middle ground here, otherwise the Church not only loses even MORE credibility, but also continues to enable these acts of evil.



Your logic sounds familiar.



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Your logic sounds familiar.


Indeed, it sounds a lot like Martin Luther.

It's nothing of the sort. I'm not at all advocating changing Catholic teachings and traditions apart from distancing ourselves from evil men. And they are evil. What's better, continuing the same traditions away from them, or sitting on their sinking ship while the captain and his crew continue full speed into the iceberg? Ideally, THEY should leave since they are not at all representative of Christ. If they don't, then what's the point of being led by fakes? This is a "black and white" moment here. No grey area. Someone has to go one way or another.


Yep. Sounds familiar.

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 Post subject: Re: Archbshp claims Pope Francis withdrew sanctions on McCar
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:06 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Archbshp claims Pope Francis withdrew sanctions on McCar
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Donatism?


Not in my reference. Formally invalid minister.

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 Post subject: Re: Archbshp claims Pope Francis withdrew sanctions on McCar
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Sure, but what I think Wolfguard is really proposing is something an awful lot like Donatism. We can't align ourselves with the traditors. They're too awful. They're not worthy. It's an a pretty ancient heresy that Wolfguard has latched onto here, not something new and shiny.

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 Post subject: Re: Archbshp claims Pope Francis withdrew sanctions on McCar
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:39 am 
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Sure, but what I think Wolfguard is really proposing is something an awful lot like Donatism. We can't align ourselves with the traditors. They're too awful. They're not worthy. It's an a pretty ancient heresy that Wolfguard has latched onto here, not something new and shiny.


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Sure, but what I think Wolfguard is really proposing is something an awful lot like Donatism. We can't align ourselves with the traditors. They're too awful. They're not worthy. It's an a pretty ancient heresy that Wolfguard has latched onto here, not something new and shiny.


There is nothing new under the sun

Though I don't think Wolfguard is making the actual scramental case (I hope) for Donatism.

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 Post subject: Re: Archbshp claims Pope Francis withdrew sanctions on McCar
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Sure, but what I think Wolfguard is really proposing is something an awful lot like Donatism. We can't align ourselves with the traditors. They're too awful. They're not worthy. It's an a pretty ancient heresy that Wolfguard has latched onto here, not something new and shiny.


There is nothing new under the sun

Though I don't think Wolfguard is making the actual scramental case (I hope) for Donatism.


I didn't read it as that. More wolfs instead of shepherds.

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