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 Post subject: Question on Matthew 24:36
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So question on how to interpret this passage on The Son now knowing the day of the End. I was able to find bits from Augustine and one of the Gregory's on it, the drift of one seeming to me to be suggesting that the hour of the Second Coming was not known from Christ's humanity, but that He did, and does know it in the fullness of the unity of His Personhood.

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 Post subject: Re: Question on Matthew 24:36
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In his humanity, he knew what the Father wanted to reveal. Out of humility, Jesus did not know. In His glorified position in heaven, He would be all-knowing.

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 Post subject: Re: Question on Matthew 24:36
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anawim wrote:
In his humanity, he knew what the Father wanted to reveal. Out of humility, Jesus did not know. In His glorified position in heaven, He would be all-knowing.


So He could know, but of His own Will did not because of His Humility?

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 Post subject: Re: Question on Matthew 24:36
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This solution is very problematic. Attributing positive ignorance to Christ, even in His humanity, and even voluntary, goes against the weight of most of the doctrinal tradition. The two most often accepted explanations are that He meant He had no knowledge that He was free to share, or that He had no knowledge derived from His human intellect (which is not the same as saying that His human intellect did not know in light of its union with His divinity).

If you want an extended discussion of the topic, see this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e5u211qa9i0ls ... ce.md?dl=0

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 Post subject: Re: Question on Matthew 24:36
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Attributing positive ignorance to Christ, even in His humanity, and even voluntary, goes against the weight of most of the doctrinal tradition.

More than that, it is the heresy of the Agnoetes which was condemned by St. Gregory the Great.

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 Post subject: Re: Question on Matthew 24:36
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See the linked article. It is not clear to me that the Agnöetan error is what was being proposed here.

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Ok.. all of that makes a LOT more sense.

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