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 Post subject: Change in the direction of Jesuits teaching
PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:46 pm 
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Hi, Long time and all that. :wave

I have heard somewhere, probably on this board, that there was a change in Jesuit "teachings", that eventually led to their part in advocating Vatican II. I think I remember someone mention some influential Jesuit late 19th or early 20th century, that led them to a "change of direction". I have tried to search for this, but I cannot find anything.

Sorry for being cryptic, but my English is what it is, and also I do not fully remember what was said, so I do not know how to describe the change I'm asking about.

I also should add that my question comes from a deep respect for the Jesuits, I'm not really interested in opinions about them. I know many people have both positive and negative things to say about them, I guess I do too, but here I'm asking because I try to understand how they evolved, and how this came to be.

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 Post subject: Re: Change in the direction of Jesuits teaching
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hey stranger ... good to see you back... it's been too long :wave

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 Post subject: Re: Change in the direction of Jesuits teaching
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You're probably thinking of Tielhard de Chardin. I don't know if there's a direct line from him to Vatican II, but he is the most prominent Jesuit holder of odd beliefs in the time you're talking about.

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 Post subject: Re: Change in the direction of Jesuits teaching
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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
You're probably thinking of Tielhard de Chardin. I don't know if there's a direct line from him to Vatican II, but he is the most prominent Jesuit holder of odd beliefs in the time you're talking about.


:) Yes, that's the one! It seems that VII got me sidetracked. :shock:


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Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:
You're probably thinking of Tielhard de Chardin. I don't know if there's a direct line from him to Vatican II, but he is the most prominent Jesuit holder of odd beliefs in the time you're talking about.


:) Yes, that's the one! It seems that VII got me sidetracked. :shock:


Depending on whom you ask, you are far from being alone on that spur. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Change in the direction of Jesuits teaching
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faithfulservant wrote:
hey stranger ... good to see you back... it's been too long :wave

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Good to be back. I visit from time to time, but I rarely post these day.


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 Post subject: Re: Change in the direction of Jesuits teaching
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Odd philosophy... didn't even get past the dust cover of the website so to speak.

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 Post subject: Re: Change in the direction of Jesuits teaching
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Rahner and de Lubac were Jesuits as well. These snakes had more influence on the council than Teilhard.

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