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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:48 am 
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Merit is divided into de condigno stricte, de condigno late and de congruo stricte.

1 How do we merit de congruo stricte in the eyes of God?
2 To those who divide merit into four, which is the fourth one? Can you give an example?

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 Post subject: Re: merit
PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:08 pm 
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Merit is divided into de condigno stricte, de condigno late and de congruo stricte.

1 How do we merit de congruo stricte in the eyes of God?
2 To those who divide merit into four, which is the fourth one? Can you give an example?

We merit de congruo stricte whenever, being in the state of grace, we pray or act for some temporal good for ourselves or others, or for some spiritual good for another, as for example St. Monica for her son.

The fourth would be de congruo late, and those that argue it would say that it would encompass, perhaps, the way a faithful Catholic merits the grace to repent after falling into mortal sin (namely his previous acts while in grace would merit that he be given repentance). I think this would be called merit only abusively

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 Post subject: Re: merit
PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:23 pm 
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Pro Ecclesia Dei wrote:
We merit de congruo stricte whenever, being in the state of grace, we pray or act for some temporal good for ourselves or others, or for some spiritual good for another, as for example St. Monica for her son.

How is it different from de condigno late?

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a faithful Catholic merits the grace to repent after falling into mortal sin (namely his previous acts while in grace would merit that he be given repentance)

Does this really exist? If so, how do "good people" "fall away"?

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 Post subject: Re: merit
PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:51 am 
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Maybe you should slow down? It seems you don't know what condign merit even means before you want to ask about something far more obscure.

Strict condign merit is had by Christ only. Condign merit broadly taken means that, even though in justice we are owed nothing, still, when in grace, and because He has promised, we merit the increase of sanctifying grace, an increase of glory in heaven, and heaven itself. Against, there is no strict equality between what is merited here, but it is condign because God has promised such, and thus such is owed. Only those three things mentioned can be merited condignly.

In congruent merit, it is only fitting that God reward us. And thus, we cannot even say we will obtain what we want, e.g. in prayer. If I get a raise after praying, then perhaps my prayer merited that... but there was no promise. It is only fitting, like it may be fitting to reward my gardener with a Christmas bonus if he is good at his job... not owed but fitting.

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 Post subject: Re: merit
PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:54 am 
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Thank you

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